EVE General Discussion

I'm gonna say a few things here. The first of which is that for the first time in many years I saw a ragequit thread that was actually understandable.

When the usual forum BS stopped and we took a serious look at the player's complaint, we made several disheartening discoveries.

199 characters and 2 corporations names contain the word '******' This word may be censored, but it's also a pile of kindling, or an offensive term for gays and lesbians.

The person ragequitting had just received a ban, apparently, for calling out a target with that name in it in local. and spelling it out to bypass the language filter.

I have to ask, but all moral and ethical issues aside, would not having a name that is automatically censored by chat be an exploit?

I mean, stop and think about it, anyone who called you out as a target risks getting a ban if they try and bypass the filter .

I'm curious what the CSM and CCP have to say about this.

Nobody uses that definition for any purpose other than trolling or making excuses for their own childishness.

While it's possible he was using the name of a player, corporation, or alliance, I very much doubt that was the case.

His post was quite ambiguous, and as such it is unclear if he was calling out intel or just being a moron. Furthermore he could have used a variety of means to report spotting them if they were a corp and not just reds to him. He could use their corp ticker, a shortened version of their corp name, a nickname or even "those idiots." Also, CCP often erases corp names that are offensive and he could have easily reported them. I find it more likely that he was just throwing out slurs, however, as evidenced by the fact that it was a seemingly recurring theme with him. But since you've already done the leg work, perhaps you would be so kind as to report those corporations you found?

I hate to say this again, but I'm sure the helpful General Discussion community will band together to give you an answer to your problem.

Also, I'm sure an ISD will sticky this thread instead of locking it.

Just because CCP hasn't been taking care of all the things that break the EULA doesn't somehow mean you can just do it without repercussion. "Sorry officer, you haven't caught and trailed all murderers yet so you can't arrest me for killing these here people".

Also, I highly doubt that the OP from that thread told us all the info and wouldn't be surprised if he in fact worded his sentences in a way to try and paint a different picture of what actually happened.

The fact is that unless you want corporation creation to take a week and also face strong and, frankly, oppressive naming rules the only means CCP has to monitor corp names is through the slow in-house process of elimination and the much quicker process of community involvement. It is not an exploit, as CCP will gladly remove the offending corp name, which is why you see names like "EVE Corporation 0123456789." Report the offending corps so that CCP can remove their names instead of being a 12 year old who screams the dirty word between giggles.

An interesting question. I had never considered the fringe benefit of a player with a dirty name being hard to call out as a target. Though, it would only be an exploit for as long as it takes for someone to petition it, and then he's Caldari Citizen 08578390 and the problem is solved!

Doesn't take long when searching dodgy words under characters to find quite a few players with some fairly bad names.

I can't comment of the specific case of that guy getting banned for saying the other players name, there seems to be some disagreement on the events. Though, if the target hadn't have had a dirty name then I'm sure none of this would have been an issue in the first place!

That's just lawyer talk.

When pugilists are exchanging blows in the ring, they are discouraged from using pejorative terms relating to gender, race or religion. The game of EVE is no different: you are encouraged to engage in space combat and scams, because that's the nature of the game. Calling each other offensive names is not part of the game and is thus discouraged.

It's really not that hard to understand, and there is an old word which relates to this issue, even if the word tends to not be used particularly often in these dollar-driven times. That word is sportsmanship. Sportsmanship is why we say "gf" in local after someone has defeated us in lowsec, rather than resorting to insults and crying like a baby because someone showed us the folly of our ways.

I am a hisec carebear, and even I understand how to behave like a grown-up.

I don't know why you posted this because it hasn't got anything to do with what I said. I perfectly understand the point of having rules and etiquette because they set the stage for wit and fun and playful behaviour. One can be very offensive while being well spoken, polite and lighthearted at the same time. But that doesn't really mean we need pc protection from idiots who spew random profanity. A game like Eve takes care of that by design. I understand from a corporate point of view that being labeled as a racist or homophobic company is definitely not a good thing but still. The social justice warriors make me want to go full ****** on their sensitivity. It's just... They make such wonderful victims.