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Announcement regarding rewards and prizes to fansites and third-party contributors

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Slappy Andven
Gildinous Vangaurd
The Initiative.
#1561 - 2013-11-27 21:00:07 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Quote:
We will keep you updated on our progress every step of the way because, as Hilmar said, communication is one of the things we are dedicated to improve.
Arnar Hrafn Gylfason

Senior Producer of EVE Online


source: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/2428

Yeah this thread shows how seriously they took the whole Incarna debacle. Their communication is so much better on issues now Lol


Communicating better does not equal capitulating to your demands. They have given the response they felt was appropriate. If they come back again, and still tell you, essentially, 'no', what then is accomplished? Nothing. Nor does it look like they are going to change their mind, and I'm completely GOOD with that.

Vote with your feet, if you must. For the rest of us, game on, problem solved, and stop whining. Thanks.

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Slappy Andven

CEO Natural Born Killas
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#1562 - 2013-11-27 21:03:55 UTC
Slappy Andven wrote:


Communicating better does not equal capitulating to your demands. They have given the response they felt was appropriate. If they come back again, and still tell you, essentially, 'no', what then is accomplished? Nothing. Nor does it look like they are going to change their mind, and I'm completely GOOD with that.

Vote with your feet, if you must. For the rest of us, game on, problem solved, and stop whining. Thanks.


No, they said they would put the program on hold and come back when they have some better-defined guidelines in place for how the rewards program should work. That in and of itself is not an answer, its a promise to come up with a solution later.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Kate stark
#1563 - 2013-11-27 21:17:39 UTC
Batelle wrote:
Slappy Andven wrote:


Communicating better does not equal capitulating to your demands. They have given the response they felt was appropriate. If they come back again, and still tell you, essentially, 'no', what then is accomplished? Nothing. Nor does it look like they are going to change their mind, and I'm completely GOOD with that.

Vote with your feet, if you must. For the rest of us, game on, problem solved, and stop whining. Thanks.


No, they said they would put the program on hold and come back when they have some better-defined guidelines in place for how the rewards program should work. That in and of itself is not an answer, its a promise to come up with a solution later.


not to mention they said there would be some surveys which never materalised.

we asked for an update (y'know, some communication). we didn't make a demand.
they simply ignored us.

oh, and then they just carried on like this never happened and gave somer a blue stratios thing to give away apparently. not that any one should be surprised by this.

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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#1564 - 2013-11-28 01:18:26 UTC
Kate stark wrote:

oh, and then they just carried on like this never happened and gave somer a blue stratios thing to give away apparently. not that any one should be surprised by this.


3-5 of them. Two winners had the choice of a holiday to Iceland Cool.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#1565 - 2013-11-28 03:04:47 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Kate stark wrote:

oh, and then they just carried on like this never happened and gave somer a blue stratios thing to give away apparently. not that any one should be surprised by this.


3-5 of them. Two winners had the choice of a holiday to Iceland Cool.

oh, so they went back and made sure to give blink some special stuff to give away that wasn't a navy vexxor

awesome, good to see no one noticed

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Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#1566 - 2013-11-28 03:10:51 UTC
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain
Kate stark
#1567 - 2013-11-28 06:39:21 UTC
Evidently ccp don't understand, or care, about the issue that has generated nearly 160 posts of feedback across various threads.

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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#1568 - 2013-11-28 10:48:18 UTC
I wish my sub would hurry up and run out. I don't want ccp to get the impression that I'm still part of their game after all of this.
Dark Magni
The Church of Awesome
#1569 - 2013-11-28 11:18:34 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Is it against the rules to set up a 'unsub protest' thread?

No. Under the condition that it is placed in OOPE (where all quit posts go) and is not breaking any forum rules. ISD Ezwal.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#1570 - 2013-11-29 13:13:06 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
I wish my sub would hurry up and run out..


So do we

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Kate stark
#1571 - 2013-11-29 16:54:55 UTC
unsurprisingly there's still no comment from ccp.

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Argus Sorn
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#1572 - 2013-11-29 19:10:28 UTC
I too am wondering when there may be a more complete response - especially given that there were issues of developer misconduct, even if not intentional, there should be a more thorough response to this.
Kate stark
#1573 - 2013-11-29 19:16:01 UTC
Argus Sorn wrote:
I too am wondering when there may be a more complete response - especially given that there were issues of developer misconduct, even if not intentional, there should be a more thorough response to this.



right now, even a blank post would be great. at least then they're aware the issue hasn't magically vanished because they stopped posting.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#1574 - 2013-11-29 20:24:03 UTC
"Regarding the handing out of prizes for third-party events, we’ve always seen value in providing reasonable prizes to boost interest in events run by enthusiastic and capable players. There’s value in it for us as a company and for you as a community. What constitutes “reasonable” is always a judgment call that has to do with the history we have with the operator, the scope of the event, and the attention and participation the event can draw. "


Yeah thats *really* hard to understand

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1575 - 2013-11-29 20:29:06 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
"Regarding the handing out of prizes for third-party events, we’ve always seen value in providing reasonable prizes to boost interest in events run by enthusiastic and capable players. There’s value in it for us as a company and for you as a community. What constitutes “reasonable” is always a judgment call that has to do with the history we have with the operator, the scope of the event, and the attention and participation the event can draw. "


Yeah thats *really* hard to understand



You think that's hard to understand?

This one is REALLY hard to understand!!

Quote:
For the time being we are pausing all plans for rare in-game rewards to select third party contributors. We want to carefully consider your feedback and determine what our framework should be and what improvements to the level of transparency are needed so that the rewards program serves its intended purpose of making the EVE Universe a better place
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#1576 - 2013-11-29 20:34:42 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:


Quote:
For the time being we are pausing all plans for rare in-game rewards to select third party contributors



1) That was 2 months ago


2) Didnt realise that the word "select" had changed meaning to "all"

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Kate stark
#1577 - 2013-11-29 20:42:38 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:


Quote:
For the time being we are pausing all plans for rare in-game rewards to select third party contributors



1) That was 2 months ago


2) Didnt realise that the word "select" had changed meaning to "all"


"select" refers to the recipients, not the distribution of prizes.. so since somer got the new stratios thing. who else were they giving rewards to since it clearly wasn't somer based on that quote.

and "for the time being" is still now, as we've not been told otherwise.

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Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1578 - 2013-11-29 22:10:00 UTC
I propose limited edition memorabilia.

Miniature statues of ships, characters, or items, perhaps out of pewter. There are cheaper substrates as well.

T-shirts, clothing (kind of boring)

Signed posters (GIANT STARMAP?)

More in this vein.
Kate stark
#1579 - 2013-11-29 22:10:59 UTC
yeah, we said all that about 70 pages ago.

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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#1580 - 2013-11-29 22:14:54 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
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