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VAERT EvE ISK => RL money donations Emergency Relief Initiative

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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#161 - 2013-11-21 19:41:52 UTC
VV, are you all fixed for PLEX now?
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#162 - 2013-11-21 20:37:34 UTC
Block Ukx wrote:


My second point is a bit more sensitive, so I do expect most people will get very defensive. There is certain individual that less than 15 days ago claimed to be broke, had no ISK, and requested a 30 B ISK bond. The same individual has now donated you 24.124 B ISK. Since you have potential audit privileges with this individual, I suggest you use it.

Good luck with your efforts.





Block.....you are better than failing at reading, right? Sad

"15 x PLEX @601M from Raw23." != Donations.

If so, then the person I buy my market stuff off is donating it to me, so I get 100% profit, right? Roll
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#163 - 2013-11-21 20:40:16 UTC
RAW23 wrote:
Last 10 plex are up at 601 for you VV.


Received 10 x PLEX @601M from RAW23

I think I have as many as possible now. Thank you a lot for your effort! I know how painful can be to station trade PLEXes.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#164 - 2013-11-21 20:41:22 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
VV, are you all fixed for PLEX now?


At the moment I think VAERT owes me a large amount of billions.

VAERT could use some ISK donations!
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#165 - 2013-11-21 23:12:37 UTC
Thanks to MailDeadDrop for the second ISK donation!

2013-11-21: 1,250,000,000 | Cash | Donor name: MailDeadDrop
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#166 - 2013-11-21 23:15:03 UTC
MailDeadDrop wrote:
VV, it looks like CCP is offering in-game garb (t-shirts) to the people that donate PLEX to the "CCP PLEX for Good" character, so I would expect that your character will be getting a pile of them Soon™.

Your decision at this point is whether to distribute (or *attempt* to distribute) them back to the givers, or perhaps to liquidate those shirts on the market to leverage more ISK for the charity. Please let us know what you think should be done.

MDD


I really don't care to keep t-shirts, the Donors who want to get them have just to EvE mail me about that, citing a reference to the date and amount of the donation.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#167 - 2013-11-21 23:51:25 UTC
Update to the current assets allocated by VAERT

The following screenshot shows both the current PLEXes split in the stacks sizes the individual Donors sent them in.

Screenshot.


Number of PLEXes currently in the hangar: 137 for an equivalent RL cash value of $2055

Current unspent liquid ISK: 10,578,190,935.50 ISK
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#168 - 2013-11-21 23:59:16 UTC
An official statement for CCP

In case I am unable to play (i.e. because I died in RL) and won't be able to send VAERT assets and ISK by the ultimate end of the CCP PLEX for Philippines charity initiative, I hereby authorize and encourage CCP to automatically confiscate both VAERT's assets and its CEO Ishkahunta assets.
Those assets shall be exclusively converted and used to send funds to the chosen Philippines charity.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#169 - 2013-11-22 00:09:35 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
VV, are you all fixed for PLEX now?


Looking at the report above, you see there's still some liquid ISK to convert into PLEX.

If you'd like to send PLEX, please:

1) Send them priced ranging from Jita IV CNAP buy orders to (price to lowest sell + highest bid) / 2.

2) Send them with a character that has not been involved in a scam. Since this RL initiative is about RL matters, I am separating a "space pixels thief avatar" from the RL person who is bound to act honorably in this matter. However, the actual interactions would happen in game, I can't put a scam alt anywhere near VAERT. I hope you'll understand that.
Nanatoa
#170 - 2013-11-22 00:36:20 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
2) Send them with a character that has not been involved in a scam. Since this RL initiative is about RL matters, I am separating a "space pixels thief avatar" from the RL person who is bound to act honorably in this matter. However, the actual interactions would happen in game, I can't put a scam alt anywhere near VAERT. I hope you'll understand that.


Interesting to see that you value the appearance of being clean more than honest bookkeeping. If Bad Bobby wants to sell you PLEX surely it doesn't matter what character he uses for the sale? Any of his characters would be "involved in a scam" as laundering the proceeds is as much part of a scam as is gaining the proceeds in the first place.

"Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011

X ATM092
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#171 - 2013-11-22 02:47:08 UTC
Nanatoa wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
2) Send them with a character that has not been involved in a scam. Since this RL initiative is about RL matters, I am separating a "space pixels thief avatar" from the RL person who is bound to act honorably in this matter. However, the actual interactions would happen in game, I can't put a scam alt anywhere near VAERT. I hope you'll understand that.


Interesting to see that you value the appearance of being clean more than honest bookkeeping. If Bad Bobby wants to sell you PLEX surely it doesn't matter what character he uses for the sale? Any of his characters would be "involved in a scam" as laundering the proceeds is as much part of a scam as is gaining the proceeds in the first place.

Not how it works according to CCP. Indeed if you find any of Bad Bobby's alts impersonating Bad Bobby and claiming that they were the person who did the heist then you can petition that. :CCP:
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#172 - 2013-11-22 05:36:22 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
2) Send them with a character that has not been involved in a scam. Since this RL initiative is about RL matters, I am separating a "space pixels thief avatar" from the RL person who is bound to act honorably in this matter. However, the actual interactions would happen in game, I can't put a scam alt anywhere near VAERT. I hope you'll understand that.

I'm not sure I have such a character. It might be better if I just steer clear of this. I can just send the PLEX to CCP directly anyway.
Samroski
Middle-Earth
#173 - 2013-11-22 09:39:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Samroski
I've set up a contract for 13 PLEXes on behalf of the CSGAMEZCF013 fund. Managed to squeeze out one more (than 12) PLEX (at 609m) overnight, and the NAV of the fund is now at 29m.

This culminates more than two and a half years of fund maintenance. I started the fund with a capital of 500m. The fund took a hit when the Japan drive was announced soon after the start. Donated one PLEX at the time from the fund, and kept reinvesting the money over the years, using a separate corp wallet division, and trading in just one item (to decrease confusion).

So it is back to square one. Will start the cycle again, and see what this 29m ends up as.

In the meantime I am liquidating my other assets to try and donate as much possible in these 2 weeks. In this context I would be grateful for bumps/bids on my T2 BPO auction for charity.

Any colour you like.

RAW23
#174 - 2013-11-22 09:41:30 UTC
Samroski wrote:
I've set up a contract for 13 PLEXes on behalf of the CSGAMEZCF013 fund. Managed to squeeze out one more (than 12) PLEX (at 609m) overnight, and the NAV of the fund is now at 29m.

This culminates more than two and a half years of fund maintenance. I started the fund with a capital of 500m. The fund took a hit when the Japan drive was announced soon after the start. Donated one PLEX at the time from the fund, and kept reinvesting the money over the years, using a separate corp wallet division, and trading in just one item (to decrease confusion).

So it is back to square one. Will start the cycle again, and see what this 29m ends up as.

In the meantime I am liquidating my other assets to try and donate as much possible in these 2 weeks. In this context I would be grateful for bumps/bids on my T2 BPO auction for charity.


Grats on the over 1000% increase! Sticking at it for over two years shows incredible fortitude and is very deserving of respect.

Bumpss incoming for the auction thread (also a great idea and very generous).

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.

Samroski
Middle-Earth
#175 - 2013-11-22 17:00:02 UTC
RAW23 wrote:

Bumpss incoming for the auction thread (also a great idea and very generous).

Thanks for the bump!

The idea stemmed from Krashion's post in VV's first (locked) thread about helping Philippines. Looking forward to the bidding.

Any colour you like.

Samroski
Middle-Earth
#176 - 2013-11-22 17:10:17 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Quote:
CCP Bro will also have another Dev Blog lined up for you next Wednesday, November 27th, with more details of a surprise that will hopefully make this the most successful PLEX for GOOD drive to date.

Question

How about a cheap PLEX promotion? e.g. $10 PLEXes for one week.

Should one then wait till 27th before buying more PLEXes for charity, or should one buy immediately?

Any colour you like.

RAW23
#177 - 2013-11-22 17:17:43 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
2) Send them with a character that has not been involved in a scam.

I'm not sure I have such a character.


Big smile

That, ladies and gentlemen, is dedication.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#178 - 2013-11-22 19:16:26 UTC
Nanatoa wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
2) Send them with a character that has not been involved in a scam. Since this RL initiative is about RL matters, I am separating a "space pixels thief avatar" from the RL person who is bound to act honorably in this matter. However, the actual interactions would happen in game, I can't put a scam alt anywhere near VAERT. I hope you'll understand that.


Interesting to see that you value the appearance of being clean more than honest bookkeeping. If Bad Bobby wants to sell you PLEX surely it doesn't matter what character he uses for the sale? Any of his characters would be "involved in a scam" as laundering the proceeds is as much part of a scam as is gaining the proceeds in the first place.


1) I have no proof to think BB in RL is a scammer. Here we are talking of RL money for a RL cause. I discern game role playing (even RPing the evil guy) vs real life. Therefore I don't have massive issues dealing with RL somebody doing something for a RL cause.

2) However I need to also take into account CCP's stance about scamming in these things, therefore I must stick with as clean characters as possible.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#179 - 2013-11-22 19:17:52 UTC
Samroski wrote:
I've set up a contract for 13 PLEXes on behalf of the CSGAMEZCF013 fund. Managed to squeeze out one more (than 12) PLEX (at 609m) overnight, and the NAV of the fund is now at 29m.

This culminates more than two and a half years of fund maintenance. I started the fund with a capital of 500m. The fund took a hit when the Japan drive was announced soon after the start. Donated one PLEX at the time from the fund, and kept reinvesting the money over the years, using a separate corp wallet division, and trading in just one item (to decrease confusion).

So it is back to square one. Will start the cycle again, and see what this 29m ends up as.

In the meantime I am liquidating my other assets to try and donate as much possible in these 2 weeks. In this context I would be grateful for bumps/bids on my T2 BPO auction for charity.


I want to extend my congratulations on the forums (not just in the evemail I sent you).

You endured *years* to arrive to today's goal. Kept me updated all this time and kept growing the Sister Fund.

My deepest respect. /bow
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#180 - 2013-11-22 21:18:59 UTC
I have just received two batches of 11 PLEXes at 600M pu.

I could take 1 batch but I need 2.6B more to be able to get the second batch.

If someone has ISK in excess I will gladly get it! P