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Ace Boogi
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1481 - 2013-11-21 08:17:34 UTC
maybe Somer and CCP will surprise us by announcing they will personally match all player contributions to the plex for good campaign. considering the amount of isk they gave out during their cashout plus the fact they have cut down on their celebration giveaways, i'm sure they could afford this and not only would it help repair their public image but it would actually benefit people in real life and possibly even save some people from death or serious illness. this would do a lot towards restoring the image of Somer as a 'community service' that gives back rather than just taking and would be a good step towards reconciliation.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#1482 - 2013-11-21 11:04:34 UTC
This entire thing is disgraceful, especially the attempt to just brush it all under the rug and not address or reply to anything.

Don't expect a penny from me ever again, CCP.
MestariBation
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1483 - 2013-11-21 11:16:03 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
So, I just used my reverse imbursed PLEX to check on my favourite game I'm not subscribed to, checking if the new expansion added something for my play style and I find that it no longer matters really.

The quality of the game no longer means anything when CCP disqualifies itself as a company worth supporting with money. And with their treatment of the matter laid out in this thread, they went a long way towards disqualifying themselves. Sure with the expansion coming out and everybody busy with eating pizza, one can't expect a prompt and thorough answer, though I do wonder what those $2.5 million the PR budged was bumped up with are actually used for.

Thinking about that made me a bit angry, considering you could hire a good 100 level designers for $2.5 mil, who could each do one level per week, amounting to 4800 new levels for missions, anomalies and locations. Instead we get a %2.5 mil pizza.

So with that I doubt I'd go for another PLEX even if I'd find something to do in my solo player non-combatant industrialist niche.

But they do make funny videos, right?

Send me isk im poor
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#1484 - 2013-11-21 11:17:37 UTC
To be honest, I never cared about this in the first place.

CCP isn't ethical? Who cares? I never expected them to be.

CCP isn't fair? EVE ISNT FAIR. DEAL WITH IT.

Some people managed to cleverly RMT with CCP's implicit blessing? Good for them.

You want a response from CCP? They dont care about what you care about. They are daring you to quit playing. Have you quit yet? Have you pointlessly shot some imaginary space monument in Jita yet?

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays
MestariBation
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1485 - 2013-11-21 11:19:05 UTC
LETS EAT SOME PIZZA

Send me isk im poor
Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1486 - 2013-11-21 17:05:01 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
To be honest, I never cared about this in the first place.

CCP isn't ethical? Who cares? I never expected them to be.

CCP isn't fair? EVE ISNT FAIR. DEAL WITH IT.

Some people managed to cleverly RMT with CCP's implicit blessing? Good for them.

You want a response from CCP? They dont care about what you care about. They are daring you to quit playing. Have you quit yet? Have you pointlessly shot some imaginary space monument in Jita yet?


Funnily enough, they acted in the same manner with regards to the rollout of Incarna. It was amazing how quickly their tune changed when they saw that the "very predictable feedback" had consequences that directly impacted them.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.
Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#1487 - 2013-11-21 18:28:55 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
Karak Terrel wrote:
Looks like they think this is over. It isn't.


It so is.

But please keep clinging on to that shimmer of hope, it's very amusing Lol

My last hope died a long time ago, this is pure bitterness.
The Legendary Soldier
United.
#1488 - 2013-11-21 18:44:31 UTC
Ace Boogi wrote:
this would do a lot towards restoring the image of Somer as a 'community service'


Actually, no, it wouldn't.

Need to place a high-sec POS? Premade corps for sale, or your corps standings boosted. Trading since January 2012. Many corps sold/boosted - see my thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=63128&find=unread
Kate stark
#1489 - 2013-11-21 19:24:53 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
To be honest, I never cared about this in the first place.

CCP isn't ethical? Who cares? I never expected them to be.

CCP isn't fair? EVE ISNT FAIR. DEAL WITH IT.

Some people managed to cleverly RMT with CCP's implicit blessing? Good for them.

You want a response from CCP? They dont care about what you care about. They are daring you to quit playing. Have you quit yet? Have you pointlessly shot some imaginary space monument in Jita yet?


obviously, the people posting about it care. hell, you cared enough to post you didn't care which means you do care.

eve not being fair is a fact i accept when i pay my monthly subscription based on the fact that we're all given the same tools yet people make their own advantages. not that those advantages are given to them by a benevolent third party of which i do not have the same access to. do you understand why that irks people when they are paying money for eve?

yes, we want a response hence why we're going to keep this thread alive.
we don't want to quit; that's the entire point.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
gargars
Willco Inc.
#1490 - 2013-11-21 20:28:31 UTC
CCP someone accidentally 'unstickied' this thread. Please rectify that mistake thanks. Roll
Kate stark
#1491 - 2013-11-21 23:11:39 UTC
gargars wrote:
CCP someone accidentally 'unstickied' this thread. Please rectify that mistake thanks. Roll


unfortunately it wasn't an accident.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Dark Magni
The Church of Awesome
#1492 - 2013-11-22 09:17:24 UTC
Id love to know what people think inside CCP.

I wonder if the consensus is genuinely that our reasoned points are worthless and flawed, and that all the in game meddling and RMT favouritism with Somer blink was fair?

I mean on one hand they have cracked down on Somer at least to a certain extent. This means that there is a group of employees inside CCP that are reasonable and on our side.

On the other hand, CCP unofficial policy certainly seems to be to snub all of us that have posted a complaint in this thread, and to deviously win the debate by banning all ancillary threads, and unstickying this thread so it dies out. This means there are employees inside CCP that are antagonistic to its PAYING CUSTOMER BASE.






All this for the want of a simple apology.


Oops
RAW23
#1493 - 2013-11-22 09:29:47 UTC
Dark Magni wrote:
This means there are employees inside CCP that are antagonistic to its PAYING CUSTOMER BASE.



The truth of this was evident long ago. They hired Sreegs and then let him post Big smile

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#1494 - 2013-11-22 10:21:29 UTC
Dark Magni wrote:

I mean on one hand they have cracked down on Somer at least to a certain extent. This means that there is a group of employees inside CCP that are reasonable and on our side.

They didn't even comment/communicate that, or did they?
Oz Callaway
Doomheim
#1495 - 2013-11-22 10:43:28 UTC
Just making sure that this stays at the top, it's important that everyone who frequents these forums sees this.
Dark Magni
The Church of Awesome
#1496 - 2013-11-22 11:25:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Dark Magni
Just to summarise, for those that are new to this, CCP has given Somerblink:

-CCP vouches to protect its reputation
-CCP advertisement to help it beat its competitors
-not 1, not 10, not 20 but THIRTY 15B isk ships spawned as presents
-A special relationship that includes skype contact
-Ability to break the EULA and sell isk for real money
-Bonus 7 days to sell isk for real money after players forced it to end
-A variety of the most insanely rare and valuable ships and items to lottery out as prizes in its eve business
-The reasoning for all of the above is that Somer's lottery operation is apparently a 'community hub' and they need help to keep providing content

And to top it all off, CCP is snubbing this thread by not replying to it at all, and unstickying it so that maybe it will just die out. Basically an underhand propaganda tactic to protect itself and to protect its close friend Somer.
The Legendary Soldier
United.
#1497 - 2013-11-22 13:05:30 UTC
Dark Magni wrote:
Just to summarise, for those that are new to this, CCP has given Somerblink:

-CCP vouches to protect its reputation
-CCP advertisement to help it beat its competitors
-not 1, not 10, not 20 but THIRTY 15B isk ships spawned as presents
-A special relationship that includes skype contact
-Ability to break the EULA and sell isk for real money
-Bonus 7 days to sell isk for real money after players forced it to end
-A variety of the most insanely rare and valuable ships and items to lottery out as prizes in its eve business
-The reasoning for all of the above is that Somer's lottery operation is apparently a 'community hub' and they need help to keep providing content

And to top it all off, CCP is snubbing this thread by not replying to it at all, and unstickying it so that maybe it will just die out. Basically an underhand propaganda tactic to protect itself and to protect its close friend Somer.


For some reason I am reminded of Chief Clancy Wiggum shouting "Nothing to see here", while a large firework
factory explodes behind him :p

Need to place a high-sec POS? Premade corps for sale, or your corps standings boosted. Trading since January 2012. Many corps sold/boosted - see my thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=63128&find=unread
Kate stark
#1498 - 2013-11-22 15:38:21 UTC
Dark Magni wrote:
Id love to know what people think inside CCP.

I wonder if the consensus is genuinely that our reasoned points are worthless and flawed, and that all the in game meddling and RMT favouritism with Somer blink was fair?

I mean on one hand they have cracked down on Somer at least to a certain extent. This means that there is a group of employees inside CCP that are reasonable and on our side.

On the other hand, CCP unofficial policy certainly seems to be to snub all of us that have posted a complaint in this thread, and to deviously win the debate by banning all ancillary threads, and unstickying this thread so it dies out. This means there are employees inside CCP that are antagonistic to its PAYING CUSTOMER BASE.






All this for the want of a simple apology.


Oops


actually they didn't clamp down on somer at all, they clamped down on every one imitating somer and somer were just unfortunate collateral.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#1499 - 2013-11-22 17:32:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
oh wait never mind, these WERE given to Somer.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Twitchy Hakaari
Doomheim
#1500 - 2013-11-22 18:26:25 UTC
It's weird that you guys are still talking about this, is there not some kind of medication or something to help your obsessive minds. It's pretty annoying.