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The Legendary Soldier
United.
#1441 - 2013-11-19 16:56:40 UTC

I received a response to the ticket I mentioned above.

Whilst I cannot post it here, I can say that it appears to me that CCP appear to consider the matter closed.

So it would appear that the rules apply, except when the rules do not apply.

And I guess the CSM is dead, or impotent, which is the same as dead in my book.


Need to place a high-sec POS? Premade corps for sale, or your corps standings boosted. Trading since January 2012. Many corps sold/boosted - see my thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=63128&find=unread
Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1442 - 2013-11-19 17:01:46 UTC
The Legendary Soldier wrote:

I received a response to the ticket I mentioned above.

Whilst I cannot post it here, I can say that it appears to me that CCP appear to consider the matter closed.

So it would appear that the rules apply, except when the rules do not apply.

And I guess the CSM is dead, or impotent, which is the same as dead in my book.




Please e-mail the response to this character, or to my personal e-mail:

FaheyUSMC@gmail.com

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#1443 - 2013-11-19 17:06:13 UTC
Anya Klibor wrote:
The Legendary Soldier wrote:

I received a response to the ticket I mentioned above.

Whilst I cannot post it here, I can say that it appears to me that CCP appear to consider the matter closed.

So it would appear that the rules apply, except when the rules do not apply.

And I guess the CSM is dead, or impotent, which is the same as dead in my book.




Please e-mail the response to this character, or to my personal e-mail:

FaheyUSMC@gmail.com


Might be best not to let your personal Email address go floating around on these forums devil.
Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1444 - 2013-11-19 17:22:59 UTC
JC Anderson wrote:
Anya Klibor wrote:
The Legendary Soldier wrote:

I received a response to the ticket I mentioned above.

Whilst I cannot post it here, I can say that it appears to me that CCP appear to consider the matter closed.

So it would appear that the rules apply, except when the rules do not apply.

And I guess the CSM is dead, or impotent, which is the same as dead in my book.




Please e-mail the response to this character, or to my personal e-mail:

FaheyUSMC@gmail.com


Might be best not to let your personal Email address go floating around on these forums devil.


Considering it isn't linked to any accounts for this game or any others, nor my Massively information...I'm fine. I'm aware of DOXing and the like, but considering it doesn't have my address attached or anything, I think I'm pretty safe. Maybe not perfectly, but...well, yeah. :)

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.
Kate stark
#1445 - 2013-11-19 18:33:15 UTC
no response, unstickied.

amazing. simply amazing.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#1446 - 2013-11-19 18:39:36 UTC
i saw the ishkunes on jita market for 11 bill why the hell would anyone pay 11 bill for a ship that refines into 1 trit ;D
SkullKid
Hooligans Of War
#1447 - 2013-11-19 18:50:42 UTC
Outrage! that is all i have to say about this conspiracy
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#1448 - 2013-11-19 18:53:04 UTC
I like Battleships.

Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Your old Friends can use me for 7 days, free!!!
Kirren D'marr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1449 - 2013-11-19 19:27:28 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Slappy Andven wrote:
Kirren D'marr wrote:
Dark Magni wrote:
CCP can't ban any Somer accounts, because it gave Somer permission to do what it did, or so I have been lead to believe.


If that's the case, then CCP cannot ban anyone else for similar activity, or otherwise discourage or prohibit such activity. If the rulse are to be applied, they must be done so equally for all players. If the rules are not to be enforced, then it also must be done equally for all customers.

So CCP has a tough decision to make: do they ban all of SOMER Blink regardless of what they may have told them before, and begin to actually enforce these rules, or do they allow everyone else to engage in the same activities (using game acounts for business purposes, ISK and item bonuses for cash purchases, etc.) and reverse any previous bans over these issues?


Since Somer Blink is no longer doing the RMT portion of this at CCP's clarification, wouldn't they have to break the rules post notification by CCP to be banned?

I know, I know - common sense is a bit much to ask from rabid fan-boys who just want to tear down people who are more successful than they are, but still. Somer has been in compliance the entire time. CCP endorsed them until they didn't anymore, at which point they changed the way they they do business to comply with CCP's new rules.

Once again, the butthurt is strong in all of you.

Except Somer is still a business operating accounts on EvE Online, so they are still in breach of the EULA.


Exactly. I don't know how CCP can consider the matter closed when this activity is still allowed to continue.

And Slappy, just a little friendly advice: throwing around random insults that don't even make any sense doesn't really bolster your argument. I'm clearly not a "rabid fan-boy" of CCP, nor of Somer; so who or what exactly am I supposed to be a fan-boy of? All I seek is a fair and equal application of the rules; I champion no individual or group in this discussion, so the label hardly appies. I suggest you learn what words mean before you try using them.

Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.     _ - Kina Ayami_
Frying Doom
#1450 - 2013-11-19 21:06:47 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
no response, unstickied.

amazing. simply amazing.

More great customer service.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Kate stark
#1451 - 2013-11-19 21:11:21 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
no response, unstickied.

amazing. simply amazing.

More great customer service.


customer service.

i don't think that phrase means what ccp thinks it means.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1452 - 2013-11-19 21:16:20 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
no response, unstickied.

amazing. simply amazing.


According to CCP's response to the petition TLS put in, they consider the matter "closed". No public response on it, just an attempt to hide what was going on. In essence, trying to sweep it under the rug and make us forget. I'll use that for the publication.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.
The Legendary Soldier
United.
#1453 - 2013-11-19 21:16:51 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
no response, unstickied.

amazing. simply amazing.

More great customer service.


customer service.

i don't think that phrase means what ccp thinks it means.


They know, they just dont give a ****.

Need to place a high-sec POS? Premade corps for sale, or your corps standings boosted. Trading since January 2012. Many corps sold/boosted - see my thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=63128&find=unread
Deka Ekato
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1454 - 2013-11-20 03:09:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Deka Ekato
So, CCP has,

- unstickied this thread
- consider this, ( Somer ), matter closed
- consider the vocal minority of protesters to be "unreasonable to talk to"

CCP, do you even know what Community Relations means and what's it's all about ?
- Do you have a Public Relations Department ? ( No, not your PR puppets, the CSM ).
- Don't you have an Internal Affairs Department ?

CCP, your silence on this issue is, well, pretty disgusting. Hoping that this thread and the Somer protesters will simply go away and disapear is really bad form. Ignoring angry customers, ( especially for so long ), is just plain rude.

CCP, you can't be that desperate to get money, that you allow your "business partners" to violate your own TOS / EULA ?

"Earth calling CCP, come in CCP. Where are you, CCP ?"





OK, let's list CCP's "mishaps" of recent times :-

- Somer favouritism
- Somer RMT, ( the major issue )
- Live Event debarcle
- Plex for Good, Philippines, "legal issues"

Personally, I don't know what to make out of :-
- the Dust Corp protection
- the "New Hype"

The, "Skill point reimbursement" topic, I don't know if that's true or not.

CCP, what's happening to your company ?Shocked
Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1455 - 2013-11-20 04:48:30 UTC
If memory serves, the vast majority of the public relations department (at least that handles the forums and interwebz) was let go off following Monoclegate. Everything is now handled by volunteers or the CSM.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.
Deka Ekato
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1456 - 2013-11-20 05:36:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Deka Ekato
So, that's it............

In the sense of achieving in Eve, it's "GAME OVER"Sad

No matter how much teritory you hold, how much ISK / wealth you earn and have, or how many killmails you gain, no matter how famous / infamous you become, no matter how large the heist, no matter how much tears you extract, NO ONE will ever be able to surpass Somer's achievement.

Somer has effectively WON Eve, for they have achieved the ultimate.

Somer has managed to make real money off CCP's intelectual property and get away with doing so. Shocked

Maybe I was not mature enough in my arguments about this issue. Maybe I wasn't clear / loud enough, maybe,................, I just don't know........................
Kate stark
#1457 - 2013-11-20 06:06:19 UTC
Deka Ekato wrote:
So, CCP has,

- unstickied this thread
- consider this, ( Somer ), matter closed
- consider the vocal minority of protesters to be "unreasonable to talk to"


"unreasonable to talk to". how would they know? they haven't even tried. i think the most constructive post in the thread from ccp was guard saying he was going to have pizza.

if the matter is closed surely a post explaining their position isn't too much to ask for?

**** it, i don't know why i'm still wasting my time, it's clear ccp don't give a **** so why should i?

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#1458 - 2013-11-20 06:08:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Gogela
Deka Ekato wrote:
So, tha's it............

In the sense of achieving in Eve, it's "GAME OVER"Sad

No matter how much teritory you hold, how much ISK / wealth you earn and have, or how many killmails you gain, NO ONE will ever be able to surpass Somer's achievement.

Somer has effectively WON Eve, for they have achieved the ultimate.

Somer has managed to make real money off CCP's intelectual property and get away with doing so. Shocked

Maybe I was not mature enough in my arguments about this issue. Maybe I wasn't clear / loud enough, maybe,................, I just don't know........................

The people getting screwed are the people who play the end game. The alliance heads. This is stupid... CCP is fumbling an important ball here... so what happens next? Meh. Loss of subs. Loss of the "give a shi**er factor." The problem is they are losing the drivers of the game despite the previous observation that it's a "vocal minority" who's upset about this. They can bury it... but what lies next is a constant downward pressure on subs as people gradually loose interest in the game and go to another. Whatever. I think CCP needs the kick in their complacent sack. They'll fire a bunch of people and get scared before they acknowledge this problem. Let's face it... they are the last to know. CCP reacts. It's not a proactive organization. Once they start losing large numbers of subs they'll change their ways. Until then, EvE will be what it is... and the Gogela will abide...

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#1459 - 2013-11-20 06:35:53 UTC
So there was never any response to this huh. Just hope it goes away?
The Legendary Soldier
United.
#1460 - 2013-11-20 08:11:32 UTC

We cannot let it "go away"

Need to place a high-sec POS? Premade corps for sale, or your corps standings boosted. Trading since January 2012. Many corps sold/boosted - see my thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=63128&find=unread