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Wait! Wait! Wait! --- You're shitting me right?!

Aren't you afraid that some "small group of experienced players" is going to "farm the content"?
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I sincerely hope that the reintroduction of the 1/10s and 2/10s doesn't coincide with the reintroduction of static plexes... not just because such sites lead to stop-watch farming, AFK farming, and bots abuses... but also because CCP would otherwise be directly and entirely re-negging on their formerly stated agenda.

That is, we would have CCP's Remarkable Methodology for Developing New Expansion Content to Keep the Game Fresh(TM) defined as:
Step 1: Remove existing content that was supported by a vibrant emergent PvP battleground community.
Step 2: Fail to address concerns of community members in any capacity. (you know, the people who actually play the ******* game?)
Step 3: Provide no substitute in its place.
Step 4: Reintroduce formerly removed content and rebrand said content as a new 'Feature' for an upcoming expansion.
Step 5: Bask in the warm glowing praise of the fickle amnesiac playerbase.

It didn't take a crystal ball to see that removing 2/10s from lowsec (as an afterthought!!!) and providing no meaningful substitute was a really horrible idea...

The best part about these changes is how they will be re-sold to the community after their re-introduction:

"We decided that having lowsec PvE content that would not only provide income to lowsec residents but also that would inspire PvP would be a good thing for the health of the game. Further, since Rubicon's launch we've been following the metrics and can see that based on this myopically short-term adoption curve (See Figure A: Short-sighted user uptake perspective) that our players are just eating this **** up. This adoption curve is undisputed proof that our players are just loving it. Bravo us."

...followed by post-Rubicon-launch CCP internal discussions along the lines of:

CCP Metrics'R'Us: "Boy, would you just LOOK at these metrics!?"
CCP Watercooler: "Yeah, get a load of all these people fighting over and completing lowsec 2/10s!"
CCP Metrics'R'Us: "Yeah, I never would have guessed that anyone would live in, let alone give two craps about lowsec! We sure as hell don't!"
CCP Watercooler: "Tell me about it... Say, let's go do something worthwhile like watching the immersive gate-jump animation one more time!"
CCP Metrics'R'Us: "Sounds good to me!"
[[Swwwwwoooossh!!!]]
CCP Watercooler: "Ooooooh!"
CCP Metrics'R'Us: "Ahhhhh!"
CCP Watercooler: "This sure beats a loading bar!"
CCP Metrics'R'US: "You're telling me! Also, given the extent of adoption, we can see that our players are really loving this new gate jumping animation!"

Taking a step back, though. We can see that this change really is revolutionary. It's a veritable crossing of the Rubicon... embarking on bold new territory. One... small step... for man. One giant leap... for mankind. A real game-changer.

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Sarcasm aside, I believe that the (re)introduction of such PvE content in lowsec will be of benefit to the health of the game, even if it has taken its removal and reintroduction to get there. Better late than never I guess. On the other hand, I think I'll reserve my :slow clap: for more deserving 'Features' when they come.

So now there are at least 50% more loot being generated that stems from 1/10's and 2/10's, since you have stated that these sites will spawn at least at 50% of the rate of high sec.

That means all the prices drop for stuff coming from those sites, lowering high sec income yet again.

If you hate high sec that much, just dump it one fell swoop, instead of a death of a thousand cuts.

Dinsdale, sorry but get back to null sec cartels conspiracy and keep your tinfoil hands off my lowsec.

And Fozzie, we still remember 2/10 statics removal because of :metrics: and now you just put them back only as non-statics? I wonder what :metrics: show now as farming paradise that you plan to remove and if low level sites are just carrot before stick will hit.

Look at Fozzie posting this news in the evening when I'm not paying attention! Thanks to a few people at fanfest making compelling arguments (and appealing to my low-sec pride), we hope you'll like these changes.

This is good news adding additional sites that are easier into low sec. I support it fully.

However, there are quite a few "easier sites" that already exist in low sec that are not worth doing. The Dirty Site comes to mind...

I think drone sites need to be completely relooked, as I have been exploring for years and the only people that run the 5/10 drone site are new explorers that have never run them before.

It also doesn't make a whole lot of sense that the anomalies are much more dangerous to run for very little reward compared to the many DED sites that have useful module drops, and overseer effects - and with all the gates are basically care free (of other players) to run...

I haven't caught an explorer in a site for months, because of all the gates - and if you say "just take an interceptor" - the rats agro almost instantly and pop anything smaller than a cruiser.

TLDR:
I like the change proposed
Fix drone sites while you are in low sec (add a useful module to the drop tables)
I wish low sec DED sites were a little more dangerous for explorers (like anomalies)

Most of our discussion on the 1/10 and 2/10 thread was about the static complexes. These are spawning 1/10 and 2/10 which we never had in the first place due to the nature of high -> low -> null structure the exploration system has.

CCP did listen and add something that we never had before.

CCP made it very clear we are not getting the static complexes back. They also made it clear that farming those static complexes with their predictable timers and warptoable beacons was the issue they were resolving with their removal. That places the problems created by the static complexes in a different category to the ones created by probable sites. They already removed T3 access to the lower level sites in high sec which according to some destroyed high sec exploration and no one has ever scanned down a site since.

With the exploration changes in Odyssey, these sites are more than approachable for newer players to scan down and go pewpew in. The ship restrictions will limit the vets a tiny bit. It isn't the 1/10 and 2/10 statics and I don't think anyone is approaching it as if it is. But it is a step to filling the void lost by those sites being removed.

To answer the question about the removal of the static sites, we have no plans to reintroduce any static sites with loot worth farming. Using the exploration system spreads out the sites and prevents easy farming.

The issue from before wasn't the 1/10 and 2/10 plexes being in lowsec, it was them being static. That's why we're bringing the non-static spawns to lowsec now without compunction.

Now just make the "separate highsec with lowsec space(and add more lowsec)" happen and lowsec will be the best place in the game :D

That is an excellent idea.

Also the key that most of the sites require should either be removed entirely, or permanently unlock the gate once used.