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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#581 - 2013-10-30 15:52:30 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Star Citizen really is a one of a kind, vision.

This has been more about selling one persons vision for a game they would like to play than it has been about the game its self.

It is the first game where I have ever thought, well I will need a new computer just for that, No Worries.
$500 for a HOTAS and another $500 for Pedals, sounds good.
I might want 3 bigger monitors and an TrackIR, awesome.

Will it compete with EvE, yes/no it is similar as it is a space game but it will more pull on the strings of everyone who played Wing Commander, Freelancer or even Elite.

And the graphics so far are just out of this world and make EvE look like an old VGA game by comparison.Lol

As to the ships we can buy now, they are apparently a small amount compared to what will be available at launch, especially the capitals.


Heh. Such obvious parallels between SC cheerleaders, such as yourself, and Apple nerds that it is just tragic.


The difference being that the petty smug minority it's EVE players, not SC pledgers and supporters.Lol


Perhaps you should read what he wrote again. But I know! Reading comprehension is HARD!

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Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#582 - 2013-10-30 16:11:01 UTC
Petty, smug minority here. Am I the only person who watched their much-ballyhooed motion capture for avatar movement and thought that the result was terrible? The pilot walks, runs and especially climbs like a cyborg on meth. There's nothing natural about it.

As to the rest of it: the idea is interesting, and the concept art sure is pretty--but then, so is EVE's. As for the rest, I'm content to reserve judgment until it ships.

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Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#583 - 2013-10-30 16:13:37 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Star Citizen really is a one of a kind, vision.

This has been more about selling one persons vision for a game they would like to play than it has been about the game its self.

It is the first game where I have ever thought, well I will need a new computer just for that, No Worries.
$500 for a HOTAS and another $500 for Pedals, sounds good.
I might want 3 bigger monitors and an TrackIR, awesome.

Will it compete with EvE, yes/no it is similar as it is a space game but it will more pull on the strings of everyone who played Wing Commander, Freelancer or even Elite.

And the graphics so far are just out of this world and make EvE look like an old VGA game by comparison.Lol

As to the ships we can buy now, they are apparently a small amount compared to what will be available at launch, especially the capitals.


Heh. Such obvious parallels between SC cheerleaders, such as yourself, and Apple nerds that it is just tragic.



Does sound a bit like something a Apple loving person would say.

Now admit I have a $400 joystick/pedals and trackIR but its certainly not for StarCitizen. Nor would I feel the need to purchase such hardware before the game is even released.

-k8

My Fanclub
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#584 - 2013-10-30 18:03:28 UTC
Dersen Lowery wrote:
Petty, smug minority here. Am I the only person who watched their much-ballyhooed motion capture for avatar movement and thought that the result was terrible? The pilot walks, runs and especially climbs like a cyborg on meth. There's nothing natural about it.

As to the rest of it: the idea is interesting, and the concept art sure is pretty--but then, so is EVE's. As for the rest, I'm content to reserve judgment until it ships.


You mean the not-even-alpha placeholder animation on the hangar module? Something makes me think that it's not exactly what they were talking about.

Ironically, the not-even-alpha placeholder avatar in SC already can do more things than ours do in EVE.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
#585 - 2013-10-30 18:42:25 UTC
Chris Roberts was always about story telling and graphics that only support the newest hardware.

Most Gamers are always judging new games on what they can perceive first: screenshots, trailers, hear-say, first impression tests, demos ...

Of course eve is in a bad position:
- the number of subscription based games dwindles.
- people willingly pay more to a F2P or over-hyped AAA title (but usually also quit faster. Low entry and exit barriers)
- people think they can't catch up with vets in EVE because it's been out for then years. (Thanks other MMOs for indoctrinting people.)


Yet eve is the only place where your virtual items matter (you can potentially lose everything). Everything else is just cool for a couple of months ... and only if you haven't experienced anything better. I have 2 games that made my heart race: Doom in 1993 and eve since I've been playing.

I'll stick with eve.

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#586 - 2013-10-30 19:13:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
(edited)

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Frying Doom
#587 - 2013-10-30 21:01:44 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Star Citizen really is a one of a kind, vision.

This has been more about selling one persons vision for a game they would like to play than it has been about the game its self.

It is the first game where I have ever thought, well I will need a new computer just for that, No Worries.
$500 for a HOTAS and another $500 for Pedals, sounds good.
I might want 3 bigger monitors and an TrackIR, awesome.

Will it compete with EvE, yes/no it is similar as it is a space game but it will more pull on the strings of everyone who played Wing Commander, Freelancer or even Elite.

And the graphics so far are just out of this world and make EvE look like an old VGA game by comparison.Lol

As to the ships we can buy now, they are apparently a small amount compared to what will be available at launch, especially the capitals.


Heh. Such obvious parallels between SC cheerleaders, such as yourself, and Apple nerds that it is just tragic.

Quite possibly, I will go play with my IPod while you can keep using your ZuneLol

The basic fact is SC looks exciting and does not have a publisher to worry about, while EvE is so worried about their own Greed little else matters to them any more. Look at their development budget, up 50% and what does EvE get? A crappy patch, nothing more. They are so busy on their other games and tablet interactions they seem to have forgotten about EvE.

SC is not funding WoD, Dust 514 and Valkyrie, they are just working on SC and it shows.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#588 - 2013-10-30 22:49:00 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Star Citizen really is a one of a kind, vision.

This has been more about selling one persons vision for a game they would like to play than it has been about the game its self.

It is the first game where I have ever thought, well I will need a new computer just for that, No Worries.
$500 for a HOTAS and another $500 for Pedals, sounds good.
I might want 3 bigger monitors and an TrackIR, awesome.

Will it compete with EvE, yes/no it is similar as it is a space game but it will more pull on the strings of everyone who played Wing Commander, Freelancer or even Elite.

And the graphics so far are just out of this world and make EvE look like an old VGA game by comparison.Lol

As to the ships we can buy now, they are apparently a small amount compared to what will be available at launch, especially the capitals.


Heh. Such obvious parallels between SC cheerleaders, such as yourself, and Apple nerds that it is just tragic.

Quite possibly, I will go play with my IPod while you can keep using your ZuneLol

The basic fact is SC looks exciting and does not have a publisher to worry about, while EvE is so worried about their own Greed little else matters to them any more. Look at their development budget, up 50% and what does EvE get? A crappy patch, nothing more. They are so busy on their other games and tablet interactions they seem to have forgotten about EvE.

SC is not funding WoD, Dust 514 and Valkyrie, they are just working on SC and it shows.


Zune? I already got a phone that are quite capable handling whatever music fileformat I happen to throw at it. Get with the times...

Well, it does sound to me that you're more busy with convincing yourself that Star Citizen is exciting than providing any solid arguments for why every one, especially staunch sceptics like me, should be excited for Star Citizen. I haven't seen anything from Chris Roberts that was jaw dropping and made me jump out of the chair and shout 'holy tapdancing shitballs!" with arms raised.

It would be rather strange if Chris Roberts suddenly decided to work on a another developer's properties just like that, one might say?

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Frying Doom
#589 - 2013-10-30 23:41:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Alpheias wrote:
Zune? I already got a phone that are quite capable handling whatever music fileformat I happen to throw at it. Get with the times...

Well, it does sound to me that you're more busy with convincing yourself that Star Citizen is exciting than providing any solid arguments for why every one, especially staunch sceptics like me, should be excited for Star Citizen. I haven't seen anything from Chris Roberts that was jaw dropping and made me jump out of the chair and shout 'holy tapdancing shitballs!" with arms raised.

It would be rather strange if Chris Roberts suddenly decided to work on a another developer's properties just like that, one might say?

Frankly I am happy not to provide you with any evidence.

For the same reasons I started playing EvE are the same reasons I am going to play SC.

EvE was more advanced than SC is now, when I started playing but it was still bloody horrible, there were so many things wrong with it, the POS code was crap, the whole of Null sec was crap, lo-sec did not really have a point ect..

What EvE did have back then was a vision, it sold me on what it wanted to become with WiS and atmospheric flight, huge battles with meaning and fun along the way.

Years down the track we still have crap POS code, crap Nullsec, lo-sec still really has no meaning, no WiS, no atmospheric flight, and even though we have huge battles CCP has made that into he who has the biggest cheque book wins.

There is no exciting vision for the future here for EvE, there is for WoD, EvE Valkyrie and well Dust is just a corpse that they throw money at.

Now maybe Chris Roberts vision does not start as wonderfully great as we all hope it to be but they will continue to work and that vision will continue to be there and who knows maybe in 8 years he will lose his vision and start to believe 'Greed is Good'

That is why I will back SC because it has a vision, while CCP seems to just grope around in the dark and fund development on everything but EvE. Look at their development budget 50% increase for 6 months up to 12 million dollars and what does EvE get? A patch, nothing more.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#590 - 2013-10-31 08:45:39 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
(...)

Well, it does sound to me that you're more busy with convincing yourself that Star Citizen is exciting than providing any solid arguments for why every one, especially staunch sceptics like me, should be excited for Star Citizen. I haven't seen anything from Chris Roberts that was jaw dropping and made me jump out of the chair and shout 'holy tapdancing shitballs!" with arms raised.

(...)


I know how that feels. It's been years since the last time I had an answer to someone asking "Why should I play EVE Online?".

First it looked like "why should I do crack?", now it's feeling like "why should I do krokodil?"

Don't need to bother, son. Probably you won't like it. And if you like it, the world will be a nicer place if you don't develop that potential for depravity. Lol

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Tanesha Kring
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#591 - 2013-10-31 11:06:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Tanesha Kring
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:

First it looked like "why should I do crack?", now it's feeling like "why should I do krokodil?"


Thinking about (probably over thinking it) it. I'm really not sure what to take away from this simile.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#592 - 2013-10-31 16:26:55 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Zune? I already got a phone that are quite capable handling whatever music fileformat I happen to throw at it. Get with the times...

Well, it does sound to me that you're more busy with convincing yourself that Star Citizen is exciting than providing any solid arguments for why every one, especially staunch sceptics like me, should be excited for Star Citizen. I haven't seen anything from Chris Roberts that was jaw dropping and made me jump out of the chair and shout 'holy tapdancing shitballs!" with arms raised.

It would be rather strange if Chris Roberts suddenly decided to work on a another developer's properties just like that, one might say?

Frankly I am happy not to provide you with any evidence.

For the same reasons I started playing EvE are the same reasons I am going to play SC.

EvE was more advanced than SC is now, when I started playing but it was still bloody horrible, there were so many things wrong with it, the POS code was crap, the whole of Null sec was crap, lo-sec did not really have a point ect..

What EvE did have back then was a vision, it sold me on what it wanted to become with WiS and atmospheric flight, huge battles with meaning and fun along the way.

Years down the track we still have crap POS code, crap Nullsec, lo-sec still really has no meaning, no WiS, no atmospheric flight, and even though we have huge battles CCP has made that into he who has the biggest cheque book wins.

There is no exciting vision for the future here for EvE, there is for WoD, EvE Valkyrie and well Dust is just a corpse that they throw money at.

Now maybe Chris Roberts vision does not start as wonderfully great as we all hope it to be but they will continue to work and that vision will continue to be there and who knows maybe in 8 years he will lose his vision and start to believe 'Greed is Good'

That is why I will back SC because it has a vision, while CCP seems to just grope around in the dark and fund development on everything but EvE. Look at their development budget 50% increase for 6 months up to 12 million dollars and what does EvE get? A patch, nothing more.


For someone so incredibly butthurt over a stupid game, you certainly should click that uninstall button and erase whatever trace of EVE Online left on your computer. Reading your posts has since long turned into like reading someone inflicting self-harm rather than doing the intelligent thing and seek help.

Lack of better things to do with your time and/or life than to whinge about a computer game on the game forum, I imagine?

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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#593 - 2013-10-31 16:31:04 UTC
Tanesha Kring wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:

First it looked like "why should I do crack?", now it's feeling like "why should I do krokodil?"


Thinking about (probably over thinking it) it. I'm really not sure what to take away from this simile.


The obvious answer to that would be that someone has been injecting for a very long time.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#594 - 2013-10-31 17:15:07 UTC
Tanesha Kring wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:

First it looked like "why should I do crack?", now it's feeling like "why should I do krokodil?"


Thinking about (probably over thinking it) it. I'm really not sure what to take away from this simile.


It's a metaphore on how EVE is addictive, it's not the real stuff, it's destructive, and has become worst on all three accounts over a period of time.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#595 - 2013-10-31 18:24:52 UTC
Rear admiral package of funding here

Constellation class space ship is chilling stunningly in hangar dock, antimatter drive capital dual cannons state of the art tracking routines docking bay for fighter craft friend foe missile batteries,various other weaponry, manned by crew of 4 or AI

I will take 7of9, firefly chick, that android chick from alien4 and maybe t'pol (its that vulkan ears). :p

I couldnt care less of eve vs sc if it happens to kill it so be it if not good again I just have hope it will deliver on unique space sim I happen to want and enjoy.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#596 - 2013-10-31 18:46:50 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Rear admiral package of funding here

Constellation class space ship is chilling stunningly in hangar dock, antimatter drive capital dual cannons state of the art tracking routines docking bay for fighter craft friend foe missile batteries,various other weaponry, manned by crew of 4 or AI

I will take 7of9, firefly chick, that android chick from alien4 and maybe t'pol (its that vulkan ears). :p

I couldnt care less of eve vs sc if it happens to kill it so be it if not good again I just have hope it will deliver on unique space sim I happen to want and enjoy.

post some screenshots, will ya

Help, I can't download EVE

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PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#597 - 2013-10-31 19:40:02 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Halloween is here! I too have embodied the spirit! The world swirls around me as the Citizen's voices grow lowder!!!"

Just logged in to my account on RSI Store and bought the "Name A Newly Discovered Star System" pack for $5000 USD. Roberts emailed me and told me there was none left but I gave him the money anyway. Then bought a "Shut Up And Take My Money" pack on top for another $5 USD.

Want to show big publishers you’re voting with your credits? Pick up this special spacecraft skin honoring the RSI crowdfunding campaign!
Frying Doom
#598 - 2013-10-31 19:52:04 UTC
Alpheias wrote:

For someone so incredibly butthurt over a stupid game, you certainly should click that uninstall button and erase whatever trace of EVE Online left on your computer. Reading your posts has since long turned into like reading someone inflicting self-harm rather than doing the intelligent thing and seek help.

Lack of better things to do with your time and/or life than to whinge about a computer game on the game forum, I imagine?

Why would I delete a game with years of paid game time? Even if I don't like the game, I still get to play on the forums but you see I do like EvE, it is CCPs actions and poor customer service I have a problem with.

And as you have had so much time to read all of these posts of mine, which one of us has no life? Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#599 - 2013-10-31 20:08:33 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
Halloween is here! I too have embodied the spirit! The world swirls around me as the Citizen's voices grow lowder!!!"

Just logged in to my account on RSI Store and bought the "Name A Newly Discovered Star System" pack for $5000 USD. Roberts emailed me and told me there was none left but I gave him the money anyway. Then bought a "Shut Up And Take My Money" pack on top for another $5 USD.

Want to show big publishers you’re voting with your credits? Pick up this special spacecraft skin honoring the RSI crowdfunding campaign!


So... which package you got then? Space Marshal with all 5 original pledge ships + Idris Corvette?

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#600 - 2013-10-31 20:23:11 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:

So... which package you got then? Space Marshal with all 5 original pledge ships + Idris Corvette?


No I already had that one, and 420 bengal carriers for my alts. SwAg. Just told em to shut up and take my money cuz they so awesome.