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Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#1 - 2013-10-22 19:18:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
For me Eve had recently been lacking, something. I had been logging in rarely, and doing very little when I did. So I decided to do something unique and special. Something involved with the community that I could get a sense of achievement from.

So I decided to start writing a diary that would eventually become a blog. I made a list of 10 people I had a good reason to kill and added them to my watch-list. They come from various different backgrounds and call various different kinds of space home. One of them lives in WH space. I would spend a few days info gathering, and then I would pick a first target and start trying to kill them and I would document everything I do. Eve has always been about having the enthusiasm and attitude to get stuff done, and this embodied what I wanted to do. It's been three days so far.

The first day, I added all 10 to my watch list. None were online but I started info gathering to make sure they were still active. Seems like they all were. Good. I ran a locator agent on each of them and documented their locations that day. If they moved later I could then be certain they were active. I had an idea to make a desktop application that would track when they logged in and would log their average active times. As it turns out the API for watch-lists isn't that powerful. Shame. I checked killboards to get an idea of local haunts and ships they were likely to be flying and then had to log off for the day.

Next day, more of the same. No one logged on.

Today, a war dec became active on our corp. I am in a corp with people who are generally the more caring type of bears. Two of the war targets are online, so I locate them and head to their location alone. I watch them with an alt (didn't want them to know I was hunting them until they were away from the station) for an hour but they're not undocking. I open a mail to one and eventually find out they are indeed active, just not undocking. So I try a more direct approach. I sit outside the station for another hour smack talking to see if that will get them out. Apparently not. 2 vs 1, and they're not undocking. One of them just logged off. One of my 10 targets logged in today, for two minutes. Two minutes.

I think this really is a good representation of the State of War in Eve. It's fairly easy to find fights with big groups of faceless ships, but if you want to settle a vendetta... well good luck. Either way, my hunt continues.

Edit 26/10/2013:

I've realised that to catch and kill a few of my targets I am going to need to take out war decs on their alliances. Which is going to be hugely costly. I am looking for sponsors, who will eventually appear (if they wish) on my site and in my blog. Any contributions are welcome.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2 - 2013-10-22 19:19:49 UTC


+1 because you had 2222 likes and that was bugging me

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#3 - 2013-10-22 19:20:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Ramona McCandless wrote:


+1 because you had 2222 likes and that was bugging me


I hadn't even noticed. I somehow feel robbed.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-10-22 20:03:12 UTC
I know what you mean, the gold pod ganklist is awfully difficult to actually hit anybody on. Also Ramona, if you ruin my 2222 moment the deal is off.

Dodixie > Hek
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#5 - 2013-10-22 20:04:08 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
I know what you mean, the gold pod ganklist is awfully difficult to actually hit anybody on. Also Ramona, if you ruin my 2222 moment the deal is off.



Divorce, and I promise I wont

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#6 - 2013-10-22 21:01:28 UTC
Arduemont wrote:

Today, a war dec became active on our corp. I am in a corp with people who are generally the more caring type of bears. Two of the war targets are online, so I locate them and head to their location alone. I watch them with an alt (didn't want them to know I was hunting them until they were away from the station) for an hour but they're not undocking. I open a mail to one and eventually find out they are indeed active, just not undocking. So I try a more direct approach. I sit outside the station for another hour smack talking to see if that will get them out. Apparently not. 2 vs 1, and they're not undocking. One of them just logged off.


To their credit. Three jumped me maybe an hour after I wrote this post. The third one got away. Shame really, two Caracals don't make for a shiny looking killboard but I guess 1 vs 3 isn't too bad killmails aside.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Solstice Project's Alt
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-10-22 21:40:55 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
I know what you mean, the gold pod ganklist is awfully difficult to actually hit anybody on. Also Ramona, if you ruin my 2222 moment the deal is off.



Divorce, and I promise I wont
Can i have you then ?

Buy Solstice Project for PLEX4GOOD ! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=301266 (this alt-character will get deleted once the sale is done, on 6th of december)
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#8 - 2013-10-22 22:10:43 UTC
...whos the guy you want in a WH? /me shifty eyes

"The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."
Prince Sanguine
#9 - 2013-10-22 22:41:41 UTC
Won't they know its you now that you posted this thread ?

Everytime you read this you are required to send 100 million isk directly to me.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#10 - 2013-10-23 06:59:15 UTC
Prince Sanguine wrote:
Won't they know its you now that you posted this thread ?


Probably not. One or two of them might have reason to suspect but the vast majority of them probably don't use the forums at all. I wouldn't be posting if I thought it was going to make my own life more difficult. Trying to catch specific players is difficult enough as it is.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#11 - 2013-10-23 09:18:06 UTC
Interesting post, will look forward to your progress!

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Jack Morrison
Team Liquid crp.
#12 - 2013-10-23 09:33:51 UTC
I suggest you find likely minded guys and not sit in a corp full of bears. You can always make wardecs personal, one insult here, another there and we are where we want to be. Should boost your eve experience by quite a bit. Any links to blogs where one can read about your vendetta and how it continues or will you update this thread ? (i still got some popcorn and booze)

Looking for a group to pew with ? Have a chat with me.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-10-23 09:51:18 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
So I decided to start writing a diary that would eventually become a blog.

looking forward to it

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#14 - 2013-10-23 11:19:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Jack Morrison wrote:
I suggest you find likely minded guys and not sit in a corp full of bears. You can always make wardecs personal, one insult here, another there and we are where we want to be. Should boost your eve experience by quite a bit. Any links to blogs where one can read about your vendetta and how it continues or will you update this thread ? (i still got some popcorn and booze)


I've been in a lot of PvP corps/alliances in my time since 2009 (continuous sub). Small gangs and blobs, sov space, npc null, lowsec, highsec. Sov owners, war deccers, gate campers, cap producers, suicide gankers, hot droppers, you name it (never a WH dweller though). I have a fair amount of experience in PvP, FCed for a good few of my corps/alliances. Small gang and solo are my preferred PvP style. The current corp I am in is the exception to the rule, and I will be staying with these carebears (I have grown to like them) until I am forced to join an inactive friends' corp for purposes of war deccing some of my targets. I will probably update this thread for changes without giving much detail, and once the ordeal is largely over I will put my own website up for my blog, which will include all the nitty gritty.

You can stay tuned in this thread for small updates and hopefully once I have some kind of conclusion I will put up the web page.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#15 - 2013-10-23 12:10:38 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
I know what you mean, the gold pod ganklist is awfully difficult to actually hit anybody on. Also Ramona, if you ruin my 2222 moment the deal is off.



Divorce, and I promise I wont


2,223 Likes complete. o/

Thank me later :D
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#16 - 2013-10-23 12:26:46 UTC
Arduemont wrote:


The first day, I added all 10 to my watch list. None were online but I started info gathering to make sure they were still active. Seems like they all were. Good. I ran a locator agent on each of them and documented their locations that day. If they moved later I could then be certain they were active. I had an idea to make a desktop application that would track when they logged in and would log their average active times. As it turns out the API for watch-lists isn't that powerful. Shame. I checked killboards to get an idea of local haunts and ships they were likely to be flying and then had to log off for the day.




Obsession.


By Calvin Klein.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#17 - 2013-10-23 13:15:10 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
So I try a more direct approach. I sit outside the station for another hour smack talking to see if that will get them out. Apparently not. 2 vs 1, and they're not undocking. One of them just logged off. One of my 10 targets logged in today, for two minutes. Two minutes.


So you got war decced in high sec by a bunch of pubbies and they didn't undock...

and you thought you would try to discuss 'the state of war' based on this...

Interesting...

Not today spaghetti.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#18 - 2013-10-23 17:48:37 UTC
Shoot some structures

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Anslo
Scope Works
#19 - 2013-10-23 17:53:36 UTC
Jump into the FW zone. Don't join a militia. Enjoy your fights.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#20 - 2013-10-23 17:59:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Anslo wrote:
Jump into the FW zone. Don't join a militia. Enjoy your fights.


This isn't about getting fights. If I wanted fights I would move out to NPC null again or jump into a FW zone as you say. This is about finding out whether it's even possible to settle personal vendettas. Personal battles as it were. Not just destroying faceless ships that mean nothing to me.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
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