Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I think the fit you posted before you edited the post was a better example of what the ship will likely be fitted towards. Slightly less EHP (only 4k), but much much cheaper, no?

IMO, just fit the ship with what ever turrets you like the best. I prefer hybrids so I will use those .

Someone has never seen Cloaky Probe T3's ganking either...
This is nothing that isn't in the game already, and has much worse DPS application than a cloaky T3 does, as well as significantly lower tank.

Really, yes, it's a dangerous cruiser when gank fit. IF you catch your target. Sure they might not see you uncloak instantly, but they aren't sitting still like a doorknob either. If they are then they are dying from their own stupidity. They will be burning in a direction probably much faster than you can move while cloaked, making it pure luck if you can catch them at all. Let alone if they see you after you decloak in time to react.
And no, the neuts will not cap a cruiser out instantly, because they have a Cap booster. Unless they are PvE fit. In which case you could kill them in anything PvE fit so it doesn't matter.

projectile weapons already suck with ship bonus i dont see them working very well w/o
plus the stratios have plenty of cap that you dont really need a capless weapon.
if you could fit 4 HAM that would be another story

Since common sense and logic seems to not be getting through to our devs about this borked cruiser.

Forget its probing ability.
Forget its hacking ability.

As an out and out combat cruiser.

Lets compare it to an Ishtar. The so called king of drone cruisers (yes yes, its debatable, but need to take SOME baseline).

[Stratios, Cloaky Brick of Doom]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Drone Link Augmentor II

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

Curator II x5
Berserker II x5
Valkyrie II x5
Warrior II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Garde II x5

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Fit the exact same mods on an Ishtar. Now you will see that the Stratios is [stats are with Loki links on both]:

Both have VERY decent speed 1600 v/s 1700 m/s, close to 2500 OHeated i.e. yes, trimarked and plated, they still MOVE

Both have about 600 dps with Heavy Drones/Sentries (more with Gallente, but for sake of realism and not just EFTing max numbers, assume youre using Curators or Berserkers)

Now, the Stratios:

- 67k EHP v/s 52k EHP and near double the armor HPs (with LG Slaves, this will further bloat in the Stratios favor)

- 500m3 vs 375m3 drone bay, gives so many drone options and standbys that anyone dumb enough to blap your drones.. Were talking ECM immune, Cap free, Damage-Type Selectable, Fully applied DPS here (on anything within 12km, more with pimp scram). Not to mention a spare of medium ECM drones, JUST in case your triple neuting and fat buffer and 600 dps isnt enough in a fight.

- 4.5 vs 5.8 align times, not that agility is needed on a double web, scram, dual Med Neut fit, but sure

And just for fun .. you know, a tiny itty bitty difference:

The Stratios has a CovOps cloak.


Compare it to the Pilgrim now, the other Covert Ops Drone Cruiser. Now Cry or Laugh, whatever. (I'll save you the trouble, approx, the Pilgrim is 270 vs 600 dps and about 30% less EHP, all other things being the same)

Wish to cloak and sit inside a plex, spamming short dscan waiting for fools to land? Go Stratios
Wish to travel with impunity through all of high/low sec? Go Stratios
Wish to kill fools, decloak 5 seconds before landing on a target? Go Stratios
Please bring your Billion isk Proteus and sit neuted getting your 200k EHP chipped at, 600 dps at a time

High sec farming of the source LPs, the price will NOT breach 300m after the initial frenzy, rest assured.

Really????

Edit: Anyone naive enough to believe this doesnt get supremely abused with link/probing-alts, implants needs to stop afk-playing in high-sec and understand that EvE exists beyond running L4s or no-risk hacking/salvaging sites in 0.5+ systems.

Change the Stratios bonus:

Gallente Cruiser Bonus:
5% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage

Oh nooo !! Heavy drones are gonna eat my ship !!

Ah yeah, I remember now, just flying a cruiser might be ok.

Oh, and on a side note, while it will have less ehp, a Pilgrim will do as much dps as a no gun Stratios on cruisers and below, but with really nasty ewar.

If any, the Stratios only have a bit too much fitting.

You can deploy sentry drones and do 670 DPS with perfect application since you have 2 webs.

As for the Pilgrim DPS comment, that's so mind-bogglingly stupid that I won't even bother to respond.

Probably because the ships aren't done yet. Last I saw of them, the Astero wasn't fully textured yet and the Stratios wasn't textured at all.

I'm going to say it again since everyone appears to be indicating that they've forgotten:

The whole point of the laser cap use bonus being on the Stratios in the first place is to make them viable on the hull compared to other weapons that use significantly less cap while still allowing you to basically fit any turret you want. The turrets aren't meant to be the primary source of DPS. Moreover, the Amarr side of the ship is its tank. Damage output bonuses are handled by the Gallente side. There aren't any missile slots because then all the highs would be filled with weapons and the DPS really would end up being too much.

I still strongly feel that CCP ought to develop a way to mark highslots as "utility-only" so that you can't put turrets or missile launchers into them even if you have hardpoints left. It might even serve to make balancing ships a bit easier.