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Rule of thumb:
Anything that can be used by small, incompetent corporations to hurt large alliances can be used by competent, well organized, large alliances to completely trash entire segments of the economy and drive small corporations out of business.

You've been warned this time.

I'm running POS's myself, I'm pretty sure I know exactly why its terrible.

I should have probably said it different. But I'm too lazy to actually do that... urgh.
Well I said it would be a solution to PART of the crying (mine for example, i wouldn't care much). It really wouldn't be good solution though, I'll admit to that.

A good solution would be a complete POS revamp without making lives of people tending to them even more miserable. A lot of suggestions have been made here how a Siphon Module could be implemented in a meaningful way with that.
But we all know thats not gonna happen soon.

Well if we go with your estimate, that means I can log in a couple of my other accounts (or more likely just grab a couple of buddies) and down each in a couple of minutes... not much longer than it takes to gank a ratter in a bomber.

I'm sorry, I'm really not trying to jerk your chain, but I don't see that as a serious issue.

I'm glad that at least one person understands what POSes actually used to be. POS income isn't dependent on some dude running a JF once a month. POS income is dependent on military force to capture and hold moons. Unfortunately CCP seem intent on destroying this mechanic and replacing it with PvE/clicking/logging in to check overview.

You drop 3 and nuke the entire output.

Have you given any thought at all to balance. I see and understand the ramifications and potential isk for those who siphon Poses. I fail to see what has been put in place as a balance to help the pos owner in his attempt to keep his pos free of siphons. And having the API lie about the contents is really disturbing. If you are starting down the path of API lies -- what is next??

Thanks, I thought I saw that somewhere. Yes, I was at work and to lazy to recheck the blog.

Again, many thanks.

So, I'm correct and these are virtually useless as a "fire and forget" grief tool. To keep siphoning a crew would have to empty a siphon every 20 hours (raw materials) or every 48 hours (processed materials).

This is assuming someone hasn't popped it for giggles (let alone the POS owner or his friends) in the few minutes it takes to blow one up (with no negative effects).

Still not seeing this working as an effective grief tool, or even as an effective market manipulation device.

You don't use a BS. You pull a POS gun out of storage, deploy it, man the gun, and then go make a sandwich. Done. Who cares how long it takes when you are AFK? These things are pointless.

Very very true if the POS owner (or one of his corp mates) spots it.

However what I was trying to point out was that quite often these things will get blown up by people that happen to spot them while out doing other activites... and if they have blue status to the POS owner (or just to be obnoxious) will swing in for a couple of minutes to grab a free kill mail. No obsessive logging in to check or POS guns required.

Let me be clear, I'm not bringing this up to be a ass to the goons. They usually are pretty good at pointing out what they consider to be dangerous or faulty game mechanics. I'm just saying a couple of aspects of the game mechanics involved has been overlooked in some of the worst case scenario's presented.

The key is what I pointed out in previous posts. Multiple siphons = bad

I understand why they included it to prevent baffling concepts but it also means you have the ability to nuke all output in general and have multiple siphons "chained". This is essentially the core feature that allows mass griefing.