Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I think it's going to intersect a bit earlier with a RNI due to the explosion velocity bonus (possibly an AB battlecruiser).

I'm putting a pair of RHMLs on my Tengu.
+25% damage and +50% missile velocity.

My numbers show basically the same thing. However, there is an interesting inflection point that occurs when adding situational modifiers. The addition of a single 60% web (provided by someone else) and 2-3 target painters (a common load-out for a BS size hull) moves the intersection migrates down to Cruise being better against T1 cruisers except for Cruisers fit for AB where RHML remains slightly ahead.

If you have full tackle of 2 x 60% webs, Cruise beats out RHML for MWD T1 cruiser and above. Adding even a single TP places Cruise above RHML for anything above a Destroyer or AB T1 cruiser. 3 TPs and full tackle aligns Cruise at 75%+ RHML damage even on non-prop and MWD T1 frigates.

It would be pointless to apply damage application hull bonuses to RHML as they are at max damage against cruisers regardless of propulsion used with only a couple of TPs. That said, I have to say that when striking range, alpha, and missile speed are taken into account, Cruise missiles will still be the better option even when RHML outdamages them by 10-15%. I think if the damage projection bonuses applied these would be in a really good place actually.

Oversight - thanks, will fix.

Explosion velocity or dont use.

CCP, can we please get at least some update on the rationale for not including missile velocity?

It pretty much limits RHML use to the handful of missile-specific ships that receive a rate of fire or damage bonus (Raven, Scorpion, Scorpion Navy, Typhoon and Typhoon Fleet). Having gone through the numbers most of us appreciate that not including explosion radius (and to a lesser extent, explosion velocity) would probably make RHMLs entirely too powerful, but we're still taking about an overall 20% drop in DPS not including the massive range hit with RHMLs. Some of these ships are more geared towards long-range setups, and the RHMLs only seem to favor short and mid-range fits.

And while we're at it, any updated on the rumored missile tracking computer?

Raven Navy Issue, T2 cruise launchers, precision cruise missiles and three rigors. Cruisers are done as dinner (and frigates not that far off).

So, when can we start looking into an attack battlecruiser with rapid heavy missile launchers? :)

-why not just get rid of t2 dmg only missiles and replace them with
ham like atts!
-we have pirate and navy faction dmg missiles any way, that way we can reduce all the launchers we have to deal with!!!
this could be for all size missile launchers!!!!

Damage application is going to be a bit better on the RNI with the explosion radius bonus for cruise missiles, especially if you're running three rigors and precision. Those will probably outperform RHMLs against cruisers and possibly even frigates, mainly due to the 20% extra damage. Now if RHMLs received the missile velocity bonus...