EVE General Discussion

At some point, repeatedly long-posting the same argument again and again becomes tedious. We've all made our points. No need to keep grinding away. It's not like the 14th wall of text is the one that will finally bring them to the light.

Doh!

2 years ago I made a post asking for CCP to quit the hypocrisy, throw the mask and make RMT "canon".

There are MMOs where RMT is just a mechanic of the game, 3rd party companies may advertise services for cash and so on.

Most won't use them and there are alternate paths provided to achieve the same goals without spending a dime.


Now, EvE players seem to be extremely against accepting this kind of officially sanctioned RMT (in contrast with botted RMT, it's still banned).
I disagree with the general EvE playerbase and find it an act of hypocrisy to talk against RMT and then under hand go buy ISK on 3rd party websites etc. etc. It reminds me of a lot of certain politicians, all law incensed and then they do their dirty laundry in secret.

Anyway, my opinion is just the opinion of one player and thus irrelevant before the majority of EvE players who are against. I can respect that.

But now comes the salty bit.

CCP are long time trying to introduce RMT in all sorts of sauces. The only RMT that got traction and not a sea of polemics are PLEX and video cards for ISK.

But CCP do want to add more (see Aurum and other underhand attempts) and are also well interested into financially "interacting" with 3rd party sites. See the attempt to grab cash from 3rd party websites and apps.


Therefore we have a conflict of interest: EvE players don't want RMT but CCP does, and strongly.

At this point CCP HAVE to:

1) Grow a pair and tell it in the open: "YES WE ARE OK WITH CONTROLLED (by them or by 3rd parties checked by them) RMT".

2) Keep the current muddy profile, childishly trying to hide their hands when they get blatantly caught.


Since:

3) Give up on RMT. Forever.

seems completely out of CCP's agenda, then they should really take the responsibility (and the consequences, including players protesting + unsubbing) to announce that they do endorse controlled RMT.

It's time to end this years long gray area where: "you can do it (RMT) if you don't tell it too loud" or where: "we forbid RMT! - loudly spoken in public - but you (Somer and others) guys, you are trustworthy and so... do it... with discretion.


In the end it's fitting: an hypocrital software house delivering a grey area MMO to hypcrital players.

So easy, so obviously the solution to the freebie part of the issues.

As for the possible RMT part, I have never bought a PLEX nor would I, so I have virtually no knowledge of any possible issues around it.

Removed biased waffle.

everything in-game has an isk value though, so inherently any in-game rewards are isk rewards. the value of the isk is irrelevant, it's just magicking isk out of thin air and dumping it in to player wallets without any guidelines is wide open to misuse and abuse.

i think CCP is perfectly fine saying "hey, they are doing something interesting why don't you take a look?", that level of recognition is fine. however flat out saying "blink are 100% legit" or whatever is just... no. it just shouldn't be happening.

To legalize RMT in any form except which is being done by the developer - AWFUL idea.
Any form of legal RMT will provoke much more botting, macrosing etc activity. People should keep their RL business out of game worlds. If there are some games that allow RMT for players - those games are sh*t, I'm absolutely sure. When people mix their RL income with online sandbox-style game - you can't keep healthy virtual world.


They made a "community spotlight" for SOMER which looked much like a commercial advertisement. It's not a "flat out saying" but by its significance - dangerously close to it.


Those ships cost between 10bil and 30bil each (according to eve-central). Approximately 30 ships were given (according to themittani.com), it's 300-900 bil, depending on the selling prices. Well.. that's way too much, I agree with that. Twenty times less would be okay - WITHOUT public support.

Honestly think about what your are saying and how the alliance tourney is run before you equate PL and somer in the same argument.

CCP guys have already clearly stated that those ships will appear again in the future. And they don't cost "1 trillion each".

My bad I miss understood.

I don't think that reference was to the community spotlight, but rather CCP Navigator's statements in response to the EVE Vegas/SOMER Blink lottery fiasco: