EVE General Discussion

That's not what I said at all. Creating strawman arguments just makes you look like a troll.

You claimed anyone could do this and get the same 'reward' - and I'm pointing out that others have done these same things and not been treat the same way or been given the same things. That is me demonstrating that your statements are false.

Please be mature

You are reaching with your trolling now..

Regardless of anyone else doing this in the past or future.. Items should not be given out as a promotion on their site like that.. If they are doing a fanfest or something of the like then CCP can be like sure we'll give you this item(s) to give out to such and such.. but don't give them the ones running the event the items.. Have the event runner tell CCP who won the item at their event and then CCP contract/give the item to the winning person.

Yes there could be some collusion at a fanfest meeting or whatever. But given that this is taking place where the people are actually gathering the likely hood of that is a little smaller because if you screw someone over they could start a mob and burn the place down or you get the crap beat out of you..

It's not a straw man if you present the same argument again in your reply.



That right there is exactly what I'm replying to.

"We made a website too, where's our free stuff?"

"We played football too, where's our trophy for participating?"

You have to win.

You may not know ahead of time what the criteria is for winning in this case, but I guarantee you it doesn't include whining about the others who have won.

Relevant.

I'm disappointed to see that it still seems as if CCP does not 'get it'... we don't want you giving stuff to people in-game that gives them any kind of advantage... the SIW is worth what it's worth because of it's rarity, if you look at the sell history people are clearly willing to pay huge amounts for it, even now. It doesn't matter if it only refines to 1trit if it can be easily converted to a t2 bpo or a supercap hull. Also, that thing about the SIW being announced to be a promo item... yeah, that was vaguely worded, over a year ago, and doesn't excuse handing out a full 33% increase in supply to one entity in complete secrecy, enabling them to engage in insider trading. Also, the response the what qualified Somer to receive so many handouts is evasive... we want better answers than they do cool stuff.... what were the exact criteria? Also, why do people keep forgetting about the monocles they also recieved? those are also selling for billions of isk... so that would make somer the recipient of 3 different handouts, a spotlight, and seemingly offical dev endorsement of legitimacy? show me on other entity receiving that kind of attention please. better yet, show a non-profit entity receiving anything close to that. all those handouts totalover 1tril in profit for somer easily. and all given in dubious circumstances. i'm sorry, but it still doesn't smell right to me.

Edit: oh, and one more thing... why would you give 15bil ships to individual corp members... who are only doing their jobs? they joined the corp to make easy isk, they get paid per hour as well as plex. they definitely do not join somer's corp to donate to charity, lol, they are already being rewarded through the insane profits blink makes and the compensation somer provides. devs are way out of line giving them all those free ships to do shady deals with. somer runs a purely for-profit corp, there is no charity in his actions, sponsoring anything is only marketing/advertising, not an altruistic action.

The moment has come...

Thank you CCP for taking away my motivation to play Eve Online!

Somer blink actually cannot be blamed, because it is CCP alone allowing their lottery business.

I dont care about the few thousand dollars i put into plexes and collector editions..

The thing what makes me very sad is, that you took away the joy i had playing eve, which is.. i mean was such a great universe for a virtual life.

I know nobody cares, just wanted to let you know CCP and maybe i am not the only one... :(

you aren't the only one... i already let several accounts lapse due to this and am still debating what to do with the others as they come up for renewal. unfortunately, i do have to keep 2 accounts up for another month due to some in-game business (i keep my word, not gonna leave people holding the bag like CCP does), but depending on how this turns out, i may just let everything expire once that business is taken care of.

at the very least, i expect a complete halt in the issuance of SIW... not just a temporary stop... i'm talking a full, we're done, the units in game will be the only units in game type of deal. if you want to resume in the future, you do it with a new ship skin and announce it clearly and well ahead of time so that we don't have another situation with insider traders taking advantage of a falsely reported supply to sell their dev-spawned items for top dollar. of course, the truly correct thing to do would be to remove the 30 units given to somer from the game and reverse transactions on any of those issued that have been sold through dishonest means.

I agree. CCP are trying to claim what was given was worth 30 trit / nothing. it was worth 300b isk. And we are all paying for this game and deserve a better account than this. They simply dont want to face up to the train wreck that this is.

I am the same as you. I used to have multiple accounts but I have honestly let them all lapse apart from my main due to the constant having to stomach this kind of nonsense. If anyone from CCP doesnt believe me... check my account history.

well, i am still here because i am giving CCP a chance to make it right, i'm just not feeling so optimistic after reading the replies in this thread that display lack of understanding of what is upsetting people. and no, i'm not jealous of the ships... i own one myself, and it wasn't spawned for me, it's one of the first run units that was handed out at the tourney. even if it were to completely lose all value, it wouldn't destroy my wallet or assets list, but that's not the point. the point is i actually had to work for my isk to be able to acquire one, and i didn't have any insider info to help me sell at an inflated price either. the devs giving somer the ships directly impacts my gameplay in that it devalues my items and gives me competition. if that is going to be the case, why would i want to bother doing things to earn isk when others are getting their stuff for free? i did have to keep two of my mains active for another month to keep my word with an in-game deal, but aside from that i have no renewed lapsed toons, and i am strongly considering letting all of my accounts (11 in total atm) just die if this kind of situation continues.

i guess one good thing for our types in this situation is we get extra votes

My two cents, thanks guard seems like a rational response to community concerns.

I can read your post literally without reading between lines and see how we got to where we are. I accept your explanation and later further clarifications.

Time to move forward people..