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cap level mining ship 8 stirp miners
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ALI Virgo
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#1 - 2013-10-07 17:42:54 UTC
Make a cap size mining ship 5 strip miners. M u s c u l u s (whale)
Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#2 - 2013-10-07 17:50:33 UTC
Check your spelling in your title.

That and your title is requesting 8 strip miners, and your post is requesting 5 strip miners. Which is it?

From there, what is the need to have a capital size miner (that can use strips)?

If CCP would add ALL ores to every sec, then I could see how adding a capital mining ship into the game would be productive because you would need to have a difference in production from highsec to nulsec, but since CCP decided to give more valuable ore to nulsec, there is no need for this ship.

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Lugues Slive
Diamond Light Industries
#3 - 2013-10-07 17:57:49 UTC
Since CCP has already said that nothing will out mine the hulk, that will be the limiting factor here. It could mine on the scale of a hulk and provide another function, I.e. refining, logistics, and/or defense.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#4 - 2013-10-07 18:50:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
We do not need a new capital mining ship. If anything, a capital mining laser with the same yield as a strip miner, i.e. a dread with comparable mining yield to a HULK. Can easily tank belt rats, can jump between systems, can fit several mining upgrades. Max yield would be equal to a max yield HULK with a full flight of max skilled T2 mining drones. Still needs ORCA or Roqual support, and a place to dump the ore.

It would fit with CCP's statement they will not release another ship that could out mine the HULK, but adds much null sec utility for miners, and some nice kill mails for those that hunt them.

But then again, that would allow Titans to fit 5 or them, which would allow them to mine more than a HULK.

Has anyone ever checked if the siege module boosts mining yield of lasers? I assume it does not. I am just thinking if it did, a Moros with T2 siege (840% boost) would be equal to a Rokh with 25 mining lasers rather than 8, and could fit more MLU II's. Pretty impressive even without a capital mining laser.

I am sure Chribba can confirm it does not, The Veldnaught would be pretty sweet if it did.
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#5 - 2013-10-07 19:08:56 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Flidais Asagiri
*** EDIT: Post adds nothing to discussion*** Flidais

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#6 - 2013-10-07 19:32:34 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
I am sure Chribba can confirm it does not, The Veldnaught would be pretty sweet if it did.

I does not no Sad

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Vrenth
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-10-07 21:02:53 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
I am sure Chribba can confirm it does not, The Veldnaught would be pretty sweet if it did.

I does not no Sad

/c


Even with max skills, best modules, best implants, and boosts, the mighty veldnaught cannot contend with the Hulk. Mining is fine as it is, a steady income to nullsec bears that can read their intel channels and watch local; or a steady fountain of tears for me to lick out of their cracked open pod.
ALI Virgo
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#8 - 2013-10-08 01:27:48 UTC
Hopelesshobo wrote:
Check your spelling in your title.

That and your title is requesting 8 strip miners, and your post is requesting 5 strip miners. Which is it?

From there, what is the need to have a capital size miner (that can use strips)?

If CCP would add ALL ores to every sec, then I could see how adding a capital mining ship into the game would be productive because you would need to have a difference in production from highsec to nulsec, but since CCP decided to give more valuable ore to nulsec, there is no need for this ship.

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your correct sorry was in a hurry
ALI Virgo
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#9 - 2013-10-08 01:28:45 UTC
Hopelesshobo wrote:
Check your spelling in your title.

That and your title is requesting 8 strip miners, and your post is requesting 5 strip miners. Which is it?

From there, what is the need to have a capital size miner (that can use strips)?

If CCP would add ALL ores to every sec, then I could see how adding a capital mining ship into the game would be productive because you would need to have a difference in production from highsec to nulsec, but since CCP decided to give more valuable ore to nulsec, there is no need for this ship.

-1



how about a super miner that can not dock .
ALI Virgo
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#10 - 2013-10-08 01:29:45 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Flidais Asagiri
Arya Regnar wrote:
see above edit, Flidais



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Coyote Laughing
#11 - 2013-10-08 04:10:08 UTC
Even I have to say "Dislike".

I'm not sure how many people would use capital ships just for mining (other than Chribba of course) - unless you are looking for Rorqual sized mining modules.

It does suck to lose a character who could be mining, instead of boosting in an Orca or Rorqual, which affects the profitability of smaller gangs.

Perhaps a deployable structure in a future expansion which is a big deep core drilling rig ?

l8r \o/
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#12 - 2013-10-08 06:10:15 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
We do not need a new capital mining ship. If anything, a capital mining laser with the same yield as a strip miner, i.e. a dread with comparable mining yield to a HULK. Can easily tank belt rats, can jump between systems, can fit several mining upgrades. Max yield would be equal to a max yield HULK with a full flight of max skilled T2 mining drones. Still needs ORCA or Roqual support, and a place to dump the ore.


Rorq + POS + BLOPs + Covops/BR/Carriers(as needed for Hulks/Macks)

Light Cyno, bridge BRs in, set up POS, light cyno, Jump/bridge everything else in, start mining.

With BRs, you can do it all without leaving any capitals hanging around outside a POS for any significant amount of time. This is a cheaper (cause it's guaranteed to take fewer capitals), easier to train (again, fewer cap pilots), and safer (once again, fewer caps) way to accomplish everything your capital mining ship's gonna be able to do.

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Jordan Jansen
#13 - 2013-10-08 06:16:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jordan Jansen
I definitely won't use a ship of this kind for mining. It will be too high risk seeing as it will get to warp much slower than the already slow mining ships and be a super juicy target for gankers. Very bad idea! or a very good one if you're the ganker. hmmm...
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#14 - 2013-10-08 13:58:32 UTC
Jordan Jansen wrote:
I definitely won't use a ship of this kind for mining. It will be too high risk seeing as it will get to warp much slower than the already slow mining ships and be a super juicy target for gankers. Very bad idea! or a very good one if you're the ganker. hmmm...

risk vs reward. Such a mining ship would would need to be a high risk to maintain the balance. it would still be highly used deep inside blue territory where miners do not get ganked.

Again I say, not a new mining ship, just give us capital mining lasers. or make the dreadnaught siege module affect mining lasers. either way would give us a nice mining ship with capital class tank, and a very juicy target for gankers, a win win in my book.
Anthar Thebess
#15 - 2013-10-08 14:09:05 UTC
Yes yes and again YES.

50 % bonus to strip miner yeld per level.
BIG, GIGANTIC cargo hold.

It needs to be using some "capital reconfiguration module" with 15 minute cycle during this time you cannot jump/warp but you get additional 100% bonus to your strip miners.

I want this kind of ships sieged on nullsec belts ;)
Base hull price 4b.

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Psychoactive Stimulant
#16 - 2013-10-08 14:44:13 UTC
Yeah, make it 4b hull. Tank the size of a freighter or less. And allow them in highsec.

So much tears.
ALI Virgo
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#17 - 2013-10-08 14:45:33 UTC
Psychoactive Stimulant wrote:
Yeah, make it 4b hull. Tank the size of a freighter or less. And allow them in highsec.

So much tears.



not in high sec but think of the kill mails. :)
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2013-10-08 15:53:39 UTC
How low do you want the price of minerals to go? Roll
ALI Virgo
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#19 - 2013-10-10 01:05:57 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
How low do you want the price of minerals to go? Roll



I just wanted to kill one :) but your right it will hurt minerals.
Anthar Thebess
#20 - 2013-10-15 09:56:55 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
How low do you want the price of minerals to go? Roll

As low as possible.
Lower mineral prices are lower cost of ship hulls.
Lower ship hulls - you can kill/lose more of them for the same price.

Eve is about destroying ships not mining roids.

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