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[Rubicon] Command Ship Models

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Mr Doctor
Therapy.
Brave Collective
#201 - 2013-10-03 12:37:17 UTC
Love the model change.

Lackluster on the new paintjobs.
Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#202 - 2013-10-03 12:41:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Major Killz
I'm not sure what to feel about these changes... Why not just come up with NEW hull models all together? Fu*k give me some lined paper and a pencil and I'll draw them for free.

[u]Ich bin ein Pirat ！[/u]
Nagarythe Tinurandir
Einheit X-6
#203 - 2013-10-03 12:43:44 UTC
nice to see this coming with rubicon.

sleipnir needs the round boundless creation solar panels, though.
i thought that was part of the deal.
Jadiss
HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
#204 - 2013-10-03 12:56:34 UTC
Not impressed...

At least try to alter the model somewhat.. not just reskin....
Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#205 - 2013-10-03 13:10:50 UTC
can you please make the claymore a hurricane hull instead?

reasons:
1. black hurricane
2. everyone loves the sleipnir as it is currently

everything else is fine, although i really don't wanna give up the idea of the black and red missile ferox... :( but the nighthawk with a drake hull looks great at least.

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jiwuuut
State War Academy
Caldari State
#206 - 2013-10-03 13:17:40 UTC
Sorry, but the new models just look unispired and totally blant. We already have reskined tier 2 bc hulls. Sure the t2 Myrm looks cool and all, but you had the chance to introduce a model when you put Faction BCs in the game.

And this will ruin much beloved ships like the Nighthawk and the Sleipnir with their unique and edgy looks. If you want to introduce new models for those commandships, do a complete rework. We are seeing enough Drakes and Hurricanes as is already.
Urkhan Law
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
#207 - 2013-10-03 13:40:18 UTC
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
can you please make the claymore a hurricane hull instead?


This, Sleipner in Hurricane hull looks so bland. Skin issues?
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#208 - 2013-10-03 13:44:35 UTC
Everything but the Slip...Cane is meh. Cyclone Hull looks so much better,
Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#209 - 2013-10-03 13:52:16 UTC
the more i look at the nighthawk, the more i want you to keep it a ferox hull. the nighthawk was the "drake for people who hated how the drake looks". It's not fair to take this joy away from people.

Yes, it would mean either having 2 ferox command ships, or a drake with guns. But sometimes that's just how things have to work.

TunDraGon ~ Low sec piracy since 2003 ~ Youtube ~ Join Us
Izi55IzI
Partizanski odred Slovenije
#210 - 2013-10-03 14:11:15 UTC
keep the sleip as in now (a cyclone hull)

thanks
Sir Bartfraze
Doomheim
#211 - 2013-10-03 14:17:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Sir Bartfraze
Why would you want to change two of the most unique and interesting looking ships (Nighthawk/Sleipnir) to literally the most boring and uninspired hulls there are? I can see the need for a remodelling, but why not wait for when you actually got the new models done...and i hope by god those will be based on the Ferox and the Cyclone hulls.

Because the one thing this game does not need are more Hurricanes and Drakes.
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#212 - 2013-10-03 14:18:10 UTC
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
can you please make the claymore a hurricane hull instead?

reasons:
1. black hurricane
2. everyone loves the sleipnir as it is currently

t.



I like this approach.
The Chronophage
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#213 - 2013-10-03 14:48:31 UTC
finally, a tech 2 drake. +1
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#214 - 2013-10-03 14:53:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Sergeant Acht Scultz
CCP Fozzie wrote:
More posts!

One of the changes we were investigating for Odyssey 1.1 but had to drop due to time was adjustments to the models of half the command ships. The goal would be to move them over to hulls that match the T1 combat BC that shares their weapon type, creating some more variety, opening up options for the art guys in the future, and making the differences between the command ships more intuitive.

This is something that first got discussed by us in this Features and Ideas thread. Feedback was overwhelmingly positive but obviously there are strong feelings about a lot of this stuff. The Sleipnir in particular creates very strong feelings for me.

The plan is:
  • Absolution becomes a Carthum Harbinger
  • Eos becomes a CreoDron Myrmidon
  • Nighthawk becomes a Kaalakiota Drake
  • Sleipnir becomes a Boundless Creations Hurricane

    • This change would affect the visuals of each of those four ships, as well as manufacturing and invention for them. For that reason I want to get it announced as early as possible.

    This change would not affect the stats or bonuses of the ships at all. Any changes to those are an entirely different discussion.

    Here's a gallery of screenshots I took of the new graphics from our internal test server.

    I know this is going to generate a lot of strong feelings due to nostalgia and I share many of those feelings. However I truly think these new versions look amazing and that in the long run this is a change that people will look back on as an obvious positive.
    Let us know what you think.



    Couldn't like this post more than once....grrr Lol

    Its such a positive change and a many times asked one for obvious reasons. Of course some don't like change and will feel :hard feelings hurt: but at the end of the day all it matters is that this awesome change makes sense.

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    JellyMons
    Science and Trade Institute
    Caldari State
    #215 - 2013-10-03 14:58:38 UTC
    So what will eve be like when there's nothing left in it from the past?
    Michael Harari
    Genos Occidere
    HYDRA RELOADED
    #216 - 2013-10-03 15:08:33 UTC
    jiwuuut wrote:
    We are seeing enough Drakes and Hurricanes as is already.


    I dont even know the last time I saw a drake or hurricane.
    Wrayeth
    Inexorable Retribution
    #217 - 2013-10-03 15:21:19 UTC
    I hate to say this, but

    Do.
    Not.
    Want.

    While the Harbinger hull for the Absolution looks nice and all, the thought of my War Chicken of Doom™ no longer actually looking like a War Chicken of Doom™ greatly disappoints me. I absolutely love the Abso's current appearance and despise the thought of having it changed.

    As far as the Eos is concerned, this is the only one of the command ship model changes that I can get behind. The Myrmidon hull is sexy, though the skin could definitely use some coloration; right now it's just bland. Perhaps going with a lighter base hull color and then coloring parts of it emerald green in homage to the old Eos look?

    For the Nighthawk, I've always loved its appearance, even if it hasn't been usable in practice due to having insufficient midslots. Now, with the move to the Drake hull, it is both sub-par in capability and poor in appearance (I'm not a fan of the Drake's appearance). If it absolutely has to be moved to the Drake, at least make the base coloration black and limit the red highlights to specific areas of the ship instead of giving it red tiger stripes.

    The Sleipnir hull was always great due to its resemblance to a freight train; if you saw one of these coming at you, its appearance exactly matched the type of fight you were going to experience from it. The Hurricane hull, on the other hand, lacks this visceral sense of impending doom. Moreover, the way the camo pattern on the proposed hull was done really breaks up the outline of the ship, making it wavering and indistinct instead of being solid and threatening. Perhaps switch to solid, alternating plates of black and rust on the various hull pieces? Additionally, it would be nice if some forward-facing lights could be included in homage to the old Sleipnir appearance.
    Hell Bitch
    Imperial Academy
    Amarr Empire
    #218 - 2013-10-03 15:23:57 UTC
    Please change the Claymore and not the Sleipnir, we already have 2 AC using hurricane models, do we need a 3rd?
    Jane Shapperd
    Quafe Commandos
    #219 - 2013-10-03 15:43:35 UTC
    Love the model change.

    i am looking forward to see them Big smile
    Rivr Luzade
    Coreli Corporation
    Pandemic Legion
    #220 - 2013-10-03 15:46:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
    Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:



    Couldn't like this post more than once....grrr Lol

    Its such a positive change and a many times asked one for obvious reasons. Of course some don't like change and will feel :hard feelings hurt: but at the end of the day all it matters is that this awesome change makes sense.


    It would be awesome if it was new models. Recycling the crappy models for this is not awesome. It's just lazy.

    CCP, better go and work since we are paying you for that! Give us awesome models and not just recycling trash.

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