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[Rubicon] Command Ship Models

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Vulfen
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#181 - 2013-10-03 09:19:58 UTC
CCP has been saying they were doing this for a while n reading this all of a sudden people have started wingeing, the hulls look decent, ship harby ftw, but the sleph probably drew the short straw as the cane is probably the most unimaginative base hull you can get.
Cale Agittain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#182 - 2013-10-03 09:21:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Cale Agittain
The new Sleipnir does look a bit indistinct from the Fleet Cane, perhaps some solar panel frilling is in order, or something else to visually separate it from the Fleet Cane besides the brown camo / green camo thing.
Radgette
EVE Irn Bru Distribution
#183 - 2013-10-03 09:41:59 UTC
Also could you please clarify something for me

atm I invent from my cyclone bpo and build a sleipnir with a cyclone bpo to build the cyclone required. ( getting high ME took a while :P )

after the patch to build these changed models will you now need to purchase the other battlecruiser BPO?

fe nighthawk will now need drake bpo instead of ferox, myrm instead of brutix, harb instead of prop?

or will you ignore that and just have them invent off the current bpo?
Akturous
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#184 - 2013-10-03 09:53:44 UTC
I didn't think of the suggestion, but using the player models from the ABC comp is an excellent idea, I'm sure that will please everyone.

That would differentiate them from the Navy BC's.

Yeah you should do that.

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Pellit1
Spiritus Draconis
#185 - 2013-10-03 09:55:14 UTC
While I think the Eos looks awesome, the Sleipnir and Abso are iconic, and the Nighthawk looks sexy as hell as it is. Would prefer the Vulture to become the drake hull if anything Straight

New Sleip just looks like a Fleet Hurricane Sad
Akturous
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#186 - 2013-10-03 09:55:28 UTC
Radgette wrote:
Also could you please clarify something for me

atm I invent from my cyclone bpo and build a sleipnir with a cyclone bpo to build the cyclone required. ( getting high ME took a while :P )

after the patch to build these changed models will you now need to purchase the other battlecruiser BPO?

fe nighthawk will now need drake bpo instead of ferox, myrm instead of brutix, harb instead of prop?

or will you ignore that and just have them invent off the current bpo?


He said you'll need the new BPO I believe, it was early on.

On the flip side, at least now the Claymore is worth as much as the Sleip and moves a lot more than it used to.

Vote Item Heck One for CSM8

Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#187 - 2013-10-03 09:57:15 UTC
Pellit1 wrote:
While I think the Eos looks awesome, the Sleipnir and Abso are iconic, and the Nighthawk looks sexy as hell as it is. Would prefer the Vulture to become the drake hull if anything Straight

New Sleip just looks like a Fleet Hurricane Sad



They need to make Lai Dai have a better colour scheme instead of being half normal half gold..

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using

Xeator
soldiers.fi
#188 - 2013-10-03 10:03:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Xeator
Harvey James wrote:
Pellit1 wrote:
While I think the Eos looks awesome, the Sleipnir and Abso are iconic, and the Nighthawk looks sexy as hell as it is. Would prefer the Vulture to become the drake hull if anything Straight

New Sleip just looks like a Fleet Hurricane Sad



They need to make Lai Dai have a better colour scheme instead of being half normal half gold..


You mean Ishukone? Lai Dai is brown/orange.

ShipsOfEve wrote:
http://www.eohgames.com/labs/Ships/Creodron%20Myrmidon

Brutor Hurricane looks the same apart from the logo - http://www.eohgames.com/labs/Ships/Brutor%20Hurricane

Kaal texture for the drake is missing from Chaos so can't show that one soz :3


Just ended up looking at that page. Why cant we have all those pretty Rokhs with so many different skins. They all look so cool! Such variety would be nice. Not just having to stick with the usual boring skin would be awesome. Plus new T2 models! :D
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#189 - 2013-10-03 10:08:30 UTC
Krissada wrote:
While they are being more distinguishable from their fellow command ship it uses up the same ship model as the regular harbinger/navy harbinger and so forth for all the combat battlecruisers, but with a different skin.
Why not wait and create an all new design?


I definitely second that.

Especially the Harbinger is a ship model (imo) that shouldn't used all that often, let alone for a new command ship model. It has so many flaws and glitches and looks more like a helicopter without the rotor than a nice space ship.

New models required!

UI Improvement Collective

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Janeway84
Insane's Asylum
Evil Monkies Incorporated
#190 - 2013-10-03 10:12:30 UTC
Awesome overall! But Myrmidon looks too much lika grey dull caldari hull..
It should have 1 more color on the hull to make it be more gallente Smile

Would be cool if hulls recieved more model changes to make them look more high tec, but i guess its a nitpick.
Tepalica
ACME-CORP
#191 - 2013-10-03 10:13:09 UTC
FC, can I bring my Drake? Twisted

These new skins are awsome!
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#192 - 2013-10-03 10:16:20 UTC
Janeway84 wrote:
Awesome overall! But Myrmidon looks too much lika grey dull caldari hull..
It should have 1 more color on the hull to make it be more gallente Smile

Would be cool if hulls recieved more model changes to make them look more high tec, but i guess its a nitpick.


Not nitpicking at all. New models or noticable changes to the existing models are definitely required in order to distinct between them and guarantee the intented "making the differences between the command ships more intuitive".

Give us proper new commandships or leave them with the already awesome models!


UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
#193 - 2013-10-03 10:55:36 UTC
Cale Agittain wrote:
The new Sleipnir does look a bit indistinct from the Fleet Cane, perhaps some solar panel frilling is in order, or something else to visually separate it from the Fleet Cane besides the brown camo / green camo thing.


Yes - at first I thought the picture was actually a fleet cane by mistake. Perhaps more 'shine' like other Bounldess ships - Wolf and Munnin

Like the EOS, oddly, like the Abso but the drake and cane (oh sorry ...) Nhawk and Sleippy arent distinct to any degree.

As for the consistency - the Drake IS a missile boat, so the NHawk should be that model. The Cane is ... was :( ... 'the' gunboat, so the Sleip should be.
HellishCypress
Seraph Vender
#194 - 2013-10-03 11:08:43 UTC
I like the NHawk the way it is tbh...the drake looks like crap imo...if your gonna change something bring in completely new models...the Caldari have so few ships that look good and the NHawk is one of them NOT the Drake...
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#195 - 2013-10-03 12:04:05 UTC
Dat Draek.

It's ultimately the sexiest brick in the world. Looks damn shiney with that black/red Kaalakiota paintover. Also, wasn't expect the camo-cane to look so neat.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

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Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#196 - 2013-10-03 12:07:27 UTC
Xeator wrote:
Harvey James wrote:
Pellit1 wrote:
While I think the Eos looks awesome, the Sleipnir and Abso are iconic, and the Nighthawk looks sexy as hell as it is. Would prefer the Vulture to become the drake hull if anything Straight

New Sleip just looks like a Fleet Hurricane Sad



They need to make Lai Dai have a better colour scheme instead of being half normal half gold..


You mean Ishukone? Lai Dai is brown/orange.



both are equally bad :P

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using

Alsyth
#197 - 2013-10-03 12:20:33 UTC
Sleipnir and Nighhawk are horrible.
David Kir
Dead Game Who Cares
#198 - 2013-10-03 12:23:43 UTC
Why can't we keep the Sleipnir as it as, and swap the Claymore hull?

Who wouldn't love a black, missile-spewing Hurricane?

Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die.

Adelaida Yaraya
Zenon Paradox
#199 - 2013-10-03 12:33:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Adelaida Yaraya
All this is so uninspiring, unsatisfying and disappointing.

I mean common CCP are you serious? The company that brought us one of the most amazing universes in all of game industry, so many beautiful ships, stations, items, tools and stories cannot make new models of ships anymore? Why would you need to make new paints over and over again? Is there a problem in the design department or what? I don’t think so cause the new SoE ships are stunning!

And this is exactly what I want to see - absolutely new hull models, new ships, new possibilities.

Why would you need to ruin and change such a cult ship as the Sleipnir has become long ago?
Why would you need to bring us several Drake designs when the original and navy version are more than enough already?
Why would you take off one turret slot from the Myrmidon in means of balance (which I understand), but leave the hull model as it was before making the empty slot hanging there making the whole ship look not intact anymore?

And I know you have a lot to do, but can anyone tell me why there still are such hulls as the Condor still doing in this game in 2013? Why don't you redesign more ships as you awesomely did with the Apoc? And can you do it a little faster please?

I strongly against the command ship changes. And I think a lot of veterans will agree with me. If you want to make the differences more intuitive then please take your time and make some fresh shiny new hulls already. IMHO the looks are very important in this game. With all my love and respect to CCP developers, guys, what are we paying you for anyway? Don’t be lazy!
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#200 - 2013-10-03 12:34:54 UTC
David Kir wrote:
Why can't we keep the Sleipnir as it as, and swap the Claymore hull?

Who wouldn't love a black, missile-spewing Hurricane?



this kind of thing has been done before: Incursus / Tristan versus Ishkur/Nemesis for example. The T2 version used the "other" weapon system, different to the T1 hull.