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[Rubicon] Command Ship Models

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Aglais
Ice-Storm
#141 - 2013-10-03 00:52:36 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Did...

Did they manage to make a sexy Drake, with only a paintjob?


No, not quite. The Nighthawk is barely better than it was statwise before September and won't see much use outside of PvE I bet. Which is a shame because it actually does look kind of cool, and I wouldn't mind one solely based on appearance.

I just wish it could be... Actually usable for something that isn't fighting Guristas. Claymore's just better.
Javon Bars
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#142 - 2013-10-03 00:54:09 UTC
Absolution: I was most afraid for the Abso of all command ships because the original model is gorgeous but I have to say, the new skin looks really good.

Nighthawk: God damn that looks so sexy.

Eos: Dislike, still looks like the t1 version.

Sleip: Decent but it looks like the faction hurricane skin, both having space camo.
Jonatan Reed
Wildcard.
Boundary Experts
#143 - 2013-10-03 01:21:35 UTC
No thanks...

ELITE PVP, WHADDUP

Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#144 - 2013-10-03 01:37:14 UTC
small question is it a change for a change. i would like the graphics department to design new hulls for all t2 ships. they did a great job on the stealth bombers but i know its alot of work and even these changes are work also i dont think it was necessary.
Xeator
soldiers.fi
#145 - 2013-10-03 01:40:07 UTC
I have been wondering why most T2 ships are just reskins or the T1 counterparts since I started playing. Only stealthbombers have different models?

Why not just follow the that direction with all T2 ships? Slightly altered model of the T1 counterpart instead of a simple reskin.
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#146 - 2013-10-03 01:45:33 UTC
Xeator wrote:
I have been wondering why most T2 ships are just reskins or the T1 counterparts since I started playing. Only stealthbombers have different models?

Why not just follow the that direction with all T2 ships? Slightly altered model of the T1 counterpart instead of a simple reskin.


u havent played long enough then Blink tbh i think mine and your standpoint is pretty wide spread in the playerbase.
Xeator
soldiers.fi
#147 - 2013-10-03 01:47:58 UTC
Jeanne-Luise Argenau wrote:
Xeator wrote:
I have been wondering why most T2 ships are just reskins or the T1 counterparts since I started playing. Only stealthbombers have different models?

Why not just follow the that direction with all T2 ships? Slightly altered model of the T1 counterpart instead of a simple reskin.


u havent played long enough then Blink tbh i think mine and your standpoint is pretty wide spread in the playerbase.


Ah yes, the previous models were the same, just reskins.

If they did it with stealthbombers I can imagine it is doable for all T2. And its nice to know Im not the only one thinking they need a change :)
Galphii
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#148 - 2013-10-03 01:52:12 UTC
They all look brilliant - Nighthawk is going to become more popular than ever methinks Big smile
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Seismic Stan
Freebooted Junkworks
#149 - 2013-10-03 01:53:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Seismic Stan
Boo.

For years I've been hoarding a Nighthawk blueprint I invented myself, waiting until I got around to learning the right construction skills to build it by my own hand. It was going to be a rite of passage as I finally undocked in the intimidating bulldog-like black and red T2 Ferox hull.

Now, it'll just be yet another uninspiring flying shin pad.

I'm not really complaining - the model changes make sense, I'm just not a fan of the skidmark brown Ishukone livery that's on the Vulture alternative.
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#150 - 2013-10-03 01:58:53 UTC
Hey guys, I'm not going to be posting a lot in these threads between now and Monday, when these changes hit sisi. Just want to reassure you all that I'm still going to be reading every post in this thread and that I appreciate the feedback.

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Ezek Price
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#151 - 2013-10-03 02:01:13 UTC
Cyclone hull for the Sleipnir pretty pleeassse

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Siddicus
Nation of Sidd
#152 - 2013-10-03 02:14:39 UTC
Jeanne-Luise Argenau wrote:
Xeator wrote:
I have been wondering why most T2 ships are just reskins or the T1 counterparts since I started playing. Only stealthbombers have different models?

Why not just follow the that direction with all T2 ships? Slightly altered model of the T1 counterpart instead of a simple reskin.


u havent played long enough then Blink tbh i think mine and your standpoint is pretty wide spread in the playerbase.


The stabber hulls are a great example of this and should be implemented throughout the models =)
Prometheus Exenthal
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#153 - 2013-10-03 02:17:07 UTC
Creodron ships still need to be moar green like they were before Cool

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Andronitis
Suddenly Carebears
#154 - 2013-10-03 03:12:22 UTC
Terrible change. Ships that fill the same role on the battlefield should look the same. There is a reason that the stiletto and claw both use the slasher model.

Please reconsider this change.
Torei Dutalis
IceBox Inc.
Rogue Caldari Union
#155 - 2013-10-03 03:20:05 UTC
R.I.P. Golden (Muddy Reddish Color) Goose, you served me well.

New harbie skin looks awesome, model is still ass.

New drake skin looks great.

Myrm looks like myrm.

Cane looks like cane.

Aglais
Ice-Storm
#156 - 2013-10-03 03:22:55 UTC
Xeator wrote:
I have been wondering why most T2 ships are just reskins or the T1 counterparts since I started playing. Only stealthbombers have different models?

Why not just follow the that direction with all T2 ships? Slightly altered model of the T1 counterpart instead of a simple reskin.


Marauders.

Especially the Kronos and Vargur.
Steven Grlscz
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#157 - 2013-10-03 03:44:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Steven Grlscz
The re-skin is alright, sure they look pretty, but basically they're the same as they were before, just re-skinned already existing ships. So in all reality there isn't much of a change going on...

As other have pointed out, why not new models for the ships? Even if they're just modified versions of these current models, it would greatly continue to add to the immersion of the game that Rubicon is already bringing with its marauders redesign and newly introduced S.O.E. ships. And the same should hold true for all other Tech 2 ships.

Roll


edit spelling/grammar etc
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#158 - 2013-10-03 04:19:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jada Maroo
Chandaris wrote:
100 million to whoever can say "Kaalakiota", nine times, fast.


As a former Hawaiian, it is quite easy!

I'm very happy with the changes. Especially the Drake. It always bothered me that the Nighthawk was a missile boat based on the Ferox.
Angux Thermopyle
Negative Density
#159 - 2013-10-03 04:20:36 UTC
Fozzie, don't do it man.

Some of these command ships are iconic. Think of the past Alliance Tournaments when Sleipners burned across the field of battle and burned down their opponents in a storm of auto's. Please don't change their outward appearance to different ship hulls. Its a terrible idea and makes no sense for any kind of EvE historical continuity. I mean, in the lore of EvE how do you explain that the Sleipner now looks like a Hurricane or a Nighthawk now looks like a Drake. Same for the others. Its confusing and meaningless. You gave those old Tier2 BC hulls new life with the faction boats (even though the RF Hurricane is just the pre-nerf one with a camo scheme for 100mil more) so there is no need to suddenly swap out the appearances without any justification other than for appearances sake. I understand you may want to make them more distinguishable. I get that. But I think more subtle changes should be the way to go. Similar to the recons that share the same hull.

Please don't do this. Its a bad idea. Sometimes you just have to step back from the brink of change and think about what you are doing.
Tragedy
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#160 - 2013-10-03 04:24:14 UTC
**** yes these all look awesome. Cane is one of my fav models in the game, I'd love my sleip to look like one instead of the winged flashlight it is.