EVE Information Portal

I can't fight this feeling. These pellets are intended to ease life of lazy fat cats, who hate math, hate gameplay and only love to see ISKs are dropping to their already fat wallets.

I hate pellets.

It kills possibility for small corps like ours to be competitive on market by optimizing our POS. Yes, I say POS, not POSes - because we are that small. And for us it was the difference with Liquid Ozone consumption. Not a big ISK, really - but EVE is about small numbers that add together to yield success.

That's why I hate pellets. But I see the decision is made.

Nevertheless, giving up - it's not about me. And I am here not for whining, but to suggest a solution that will be satisfactory for everyone. And it's easy also. Here it is:

- let it be pellets, whatever makes you happy, Mr. Fatcat;

- but return me the fuel I managed to optimize, via "economizer hangar".

It means every hour the Tower will take pellets, decompose them and consume - but spit out excess LO and HW into this economizer hangar. If economizer is full - they are lost, obviously. But it never happens to those who can plan wisely.

And btw, CCP - I have a great plan how to make playing a lot much more mega easier. You know, T2 production is very complicated! Why can't I just right click an item and select "upgrade to T2"? You can charge, say, 10% of baseprice for this procedure. Think about it - really.

I'm seriously getting the feeling that CCP doesn't much like WH dwellers. Between this and the upcoming POCO changes, my life just got alot more difficult.

I manage 3 POS in a C4 for my alliance. Now, not only do I need to deal with nailing up POCOs so I can keep producing the fuel we need, I now also need to deploy fabrication arrays dedicated to turning what used to be perfectly good fuel into its new homogenous form that my towers are going to require. This is going to add precious time to the production chain, reduce the amount of resources available at my towers for other things (the fab arrays DO consume resources dont they?) as well as use up precious fabrication slots that I would be using otherwise for ammo, modules or ship fabrication.

Here's an alternative that fixes much of this (provided you cant be convinced to scrap it outright):

Instead of making the cubes at ammo and componant arrays (that feels awfully shoehorned in), either make a new separate module dedicated to this purpose that requires no skills and takes no tower resources to use. Hey... you could make it another bay on the tower itself. plug in the raw componants and the tower turns it into fuel cubes and drops them in the fuel bay. or maybe, how bout we eliminate the middle man and just put the raw fuel into the tower and call it a day??? Oh thats right, thats the system we have now... Tell me again, how is this easier??

For the record, the spreadsheet wrangling I had to do to manage this was part of the fun for me. Let me go on record as one person who didnt want this made "easier".

Glad to see you came to your senses on the faction consumption bonus tho.

-O.

.

Onlining is still 120 sec.. and you have to be outside of the shield to anchor new ones..

i would be question about faction towers, mods etc as they come from (faction) npc drops - is there been some nerf in that area? i don't remember been getting any pos modules drop like 2 years and news like WOW this rat just drop my a faction tower bpc are also not been hear - is there been some stealth nerf for faction pos equipment (drop rate) this way?

Read before posting.

read 53 pages? im getting around to it, but I just read the devblog and see no new information that would make my post old news...

10% profit?
in high sec?
for 1-step production?
at multi-trillion ISK market niche?
You must have never produced anything, nor tried to sell it on market. Let me explain it in simple language. Suppose a man mining ice decides not to sell ice products, but manufacture pellets instead - and finds 10% profit you promise. Having this 10% profit for a Mackinaw pilot is the same as having 2 (two) additional low-slots in his Mack! One for extra ice harvester upgrade, and one for CPU upgrade to make all fit. Do you still think he will miss such a chance?

And even more of it. I hope you like surprises, cause I have one for you. If you buy ice products, make pellets, and try to sell it - you will find there is not even a zero profit, but a decent loss instead. How come? Welcome to EVE! It's 3% that matters:
- 1% is brokers fee when buying ice,
- 1% is brokers fee when selling pellets,
- 1% sales tax.
While at the same time your competitor mines ice, refines it and - suddenly - is clever enough to make pellets himself. He also pays:
- 0.5% brokers fee when selling (he's got trading skills unlike you),
- 0.5% tax as well.
And also he adds 1% of profit, his prices are still better than yours.

And having this all said, let's suppose for a moment you are right and there are 10%.
Then how dare you to compare thorough planing, fine tuning and intelligent protection of the POS and this "to click or not to click" option? If you don't need it - just go straight ahead, mind your own business. If you have some objections - put them here. But if you just say "nah, I don't like it cause I cant understand it" - then it's not even worth to continue conversation.

Just give us the economizer bay, it's not that much that I ask.

After years and years of dealing with this I am glad to see most of this being fixed. There is a big difference between something designed to be challenging and something that is just plain tedious. With recreation time becoming more and more at a premium for many of us, I am happy to see I will not lose any more of my time on these tasks and can get back to playing EVE instead of working it. I have another suggestion. How about something similar to the fitting tool we now use to instantly slap mods on our ships, for POS setup. Put the modules in the box.. have a template loaded. click the button and VOILA! A pretty POS set up exactly as the last 4 thousand POSes I have set up. When are you going to get rid of that rediculous drag to position green arrow nonsense?

Thanks for your thoughtful consideration.

@ CCP:

http://www.eveonline.com/en/crucible/article/3076/starbase-happy-fun-time

?????

perhaps you should consider to rewrite that...

some highlights:
- Blocks will be 50m3 each.
- The one downside of this big-blocks approach is that it's impossible to give faction towers a fuel consumption bonus any more (you can't consume 2/3 of a block).
aso... :-)