Player Features and Ideas Discussion

sure. it'd also be nice if they took a moment to produce a coherent set of options, though. the marauder suggestions, and iterations so far have been very incoherent.

I get a lot of "you're doing it wrong" when I say I just sit there and tank in BS PvE. But the fact is, you can just sit there and tank it as is. The boost to repping will allow you to do so with even less slots, allowing for more damage application. If I can get a similar completion time in my Vargur/Golem to my Mach/TFI while also salvaging it will be a very nice upgrade.

As far as PvP is concerned there's not much battleship speed tanking going on as is. The changes make the Marauder useable in PvP compared to what it is now. The resists help for when they are able to get reps.

My proposal is to add two scripts to bastion module, so we could decide which characteristics of ship we want to boost. This include ability to move with bastion module on, just without ability to warp, dock and jump.

Script nr1 - For boosting EW abilities and movement (more pvp oriented)
* 70% cooldown bonus on MJD
* 50% reduction in MWD/MJD cap usage
* 100% stasis web optimal range
* 25% to scan resolution
* 25% to agility
* 25% to tracking and missile explosion velocity


Script nr2 - For boosting long range abilities, tank and dps (more pve oriented)
* 25% to turret optimal/missile velocity and turret falloff/missile flight time
* 25% to damage of large turrets, torpedoes and cruise missiles
* 100% to shield and armor repair amount
* 25% cap reduction of local armor reps and shield boosters
* 150% bonus to range and velocity of tractor beams and salvagers
* 100% more cap usage of MWD (making them more like stationary/slow moving turret for balance reasons)

Both scripts:
* Unable to warp, dock and jump with working bastion module
* Unable to be remote assisted in any way with working bastion module


Marauders role bonus can be:
* 100% to missile and turret damage
* Immunity to EW and Defender Missiles (some hidden bonus adding HP to our missiles making them well protected against defenders and smartbombs)

This is the most common suggestion in the thread and has my money as the best way forward, adds versatility and diversity.

The specifics need refining by a LONG THUROUGH playtest and more feedback but its definitely got my money

And double active repair.

It just depends on how you like to rat... up close and personal or jump to range. Either way the tank is well beyond what you will need, especially in Bastion mode.

A Marauder is a T2 Hull, it is NOT a Navy or Faction Hull.

The "drone bonused ships generallgy get 1 less slot" explains why the Domi and Geddon are 18 slot ships instead of 19 slot ships. It explains why the Rattlesnake is 19 slots instead of 20.

Remember, Carriers get 16, Supercarriers get 18, and Titans get 21.

Now, we could compare HACs (15 slot base) and T1 Cruisers (14 slot base) and Faction Cruisers (15 slot base) and Combat Recons (15 slots) and Force Recons (14 slots) to try and come up with some pattern to justify giving all Marauders 20 slots, but screw the trends. Let CCP balance the ships to be of appropriate power, as the Hull bonuses are far more important.

standard modules to get 70% omni resists for incursions are 2x t2 invulns, thermal rig, EM amp.

i'm betting with t2 gallente resists you can get 70% omni resists with EM amp, EM rig, and 1x invuln. however there are no t2 resist profile battleships to test that on.

if i put it on an astarte (nearest comparison i can think of, feel free to provide something better for me to test) we get...

edit; woops, totally forgot the DCII

new stats are:
75 em
75 therm
90 kin
69 exp

we're less than 1% shy of 70% explosive resist, giving us 70% omni resists. so in short, yes the extra mid slot does make the difference.

a vindicator's stats with it's standard modules are:
74 em
72 therm
72 kin
77 exp

Of course their resist profile has a direct relationship to their racial enemy, but you knew that.

Since a Paladin has more than enough tank to deal with whatever you choose to hunt, you should consider that the extra tank in other area's provides you with a bit of protection in case of a gank (where the attacker usually fits weaponry that does a damage type they assume the ratter won't tanked for).

Always a silver lining.

I think it will be enough. However I'm not convinced of the well beyond part. The problem I have is that once bastion mode is active, and nearby NPCs will quickly be within their optimal ranges while you are immobile. This would pretty much guarantee that you receive maximum damage from all NPCs on field. If their damage goes up by 50-100% that double rep amount starts to look pretty bland.

I'd be fine, if not disappointed, if CCP comes back and simply states that these hulls are for sniping with long range weapons and that's that as the bonuses (minus the web) seem to point to just that. However, I'm just trying to make sure that the brawling role isn't neglected. As I said before, this is really only a major problem for the Paladin because the Amarr T2 resist profile is so backwards. The other hulls look to be much improved with the change to T2 resists versus the active tank bonus.

I think the part that is hanging you up specifically is this.

You can jump again within 1 minute. Assuming you kill frigates first (at range) it takes far longer than a minute for any other ship class of NPC to cover 100km. They'll be lucky to get into effective damage range before they are either dead or you simply relocate.