Player Features and Ideas Discussion

As a PvE mission runner that already uses the MJD in many BS hulls I don't understand the combination of bonuses.

MJD is meant to run 100km away and kill from distance (which always forces you to fit a sebo/signal ampl to be able to target things, and also maintains sentries out of range in geddon/rattle), boosting targeting range would be nice for marauders to combine with MJD). In missions where I use a MJD, I fit a light tank (unless there are gankers around), as at 100km NPCs barely/never hit you.

Following this reasoning, which is a fact imo (NPCs barely hit you at 100km), what is the purpose of combining the ability to jump away from damage, and fitting an ultra tank? You shouldn't be receiving damage. Or is it meant to combat gankers? Because if that is the case, any armor tanker will die (cap neutralizers) and any shield ship will laugh (2x XL Ancill + passive resists). I would either go for MJD and something else, or heavy tank and sit in damage range. They seem to not combine for PvE.

I also don't understand why the complains about webs. Run at 100km and hit frigs while approaching, or use your drones. Why would you even bother hitting a frig orbiting you at 5km? It's a waste of gun time. Just launch light drones and kill something bigger.

On another point, current state of tractor beams never felt appealing enough for me to train a marauder. With the introduction of MJD, it feels very wrong. 40km range for a ship that can kill at 100km? So you kill ships and then spend 4x the time attempting to salvage? Either make it worth it or remove it, but don't leave it as it is.

Last, drone bay. You want to leave 25mb/s? fine, but let us carry 2 sets of light drones, and 1 set of salvage drones, 75m3? Which is the reason not to let us carry 75m3? are we meant to die (of boredom with the ultra tank) if our drones are killed and we get a scrambling frig?

On another side, when balancing any BS I'd rethink what CCP's intention is for a future adjustment of missions, at current state they feel quite boring/repeatable/undynamic.

Nonetheless, I like the change even as posted. The ship morphing will surely be awesome, and mini-dreads idea sounds very cool. Please keep it and make it live :)

At the current state, and in their new form, marauders will never be fleet comp worthy.

CCP isn't fixing their past issues and now they are creating future ones.


Marauders need:

sensor strength buff
paladin/kronos need 90% web back
t2 resists since they are "advanced battleships"
larger drone bay if possible


Marauders don't need:

More repping power
Smaller drone bay
To be immobile
MJD bonus


My reasoning for 90% web:
Paladin: Large lasers can't track unless target is slowed down up close. Armor ships are also slower and can't keep up
Golem: Missiles always track and have distance, shield ship = faster
Vargur: Great tracking and distance, shield ship = faster
Kronos: Blasters have horrible range and need ship locked down. Armor ships are also slower and can't keep up


edit: my complaints are for PVP

Well, niche uses, yes.

Better overall PVE, for all/most high end PVE content IMHO - And yes the Bastion mod could be used safely enough for anoms and Plexes, if you got good intel channels.

Nulsec/lowsec PVP? Never used a MJD doing that, will probably be a rare sight, still...

Hisec PVP now? Suspect/Killright bait ship, oh, YES, sure. Station games? INDEED (though I ferociously hate this...). And yeah, it's been mentioned somewhere, EWAR immunity make POS removal much easier.

And, oh, yeah, YEAH, bring that Falcon/Blackbird, and other EWAR ships, yes, please.

As for the Grid/CPU and +1 high slot, also makes it easier to use in pvp, smartbombs and NOS/Neuts being much easier to fit - Although I don't know if the NOS changes will benefit a Marauder with their cap increase.

Golem: I agree with previous comments that the Painter bonus should go (as are the Webs) and be replaced by an Explosion Velocity bonus, or whatever else.

I do not like the reduced Drone capabilities, the gods knows Marauders already don't outshine other BS, regular or Navy/Pirates in the dps department anyway, but I can live with it I guess, just don't see the point of it.

I was doing the math for how much EHP you could get out of a Paladin with Bastion activated, 2 Deadspace EANM, a DC II and a rack of HG Slaves.

It's pretty sweet.

Yeah, what I was trying to say, the maybe 2% good suggestions are being drowned in a sea, no an ocean of tears accompanied by whailing hurricanes of whine threads.

So... yeah. Totally awesome.

Regular ships "should be" viable for both PVE and PVP.

Only way this should be different is if they split the remaining ships(not indies) into two different categories: PVE and PVP

Kind of makes me wish for a 7.5% web-bonus instead of the 10% for vindicator/blood/serpentis cruiser/frigs.

Otherwise, 90% webs won't be missed with all that range now.

90 % of this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHpdgHTINik&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I bought my sons (nearly 3) new boots for the winter, they reacted like this.

Now do the math for an ASB fit vargur. Obviously ASB boosted EHP isnt the same thing as "true EHP" but this thing with a blue pill, even without crystals or a tengu/claymore booster, is absolutely ridiculous. Add deadspace and crystals for a literally unkillable station undock toy.