Crime & Punishment

Would someone be so kind as to show me where I can unsubscribe from this coalition I'm supposedly a part of? The way I remember it, both myself and Yuller turned down Vegas' offer to join his little pow wow.

We're shooting at Marmite because they are bad (except Freight Club, who are amazing!) and we like to **** in other people's (especially mercs') Cheerios. Not because Vegas paid us. Not because he made some magical back room deal with us. Not because he lovingly caressed us while in a raccoon suit, but because it's both fun and funny.

With that said, I fully accept that a group like Marmite (or Whores) have a place in the merc community. The fact is these giant alliances are better positioned to kill lots of ISK in haulers and freighters from null-sec entities, since they primarily camp trade hubs and major pipes. These activities are boring as hell and require very little skill, which is why groups like mine don't engage in them. We like hunting and actual fights, which is why it's no surprise we kill a lot of Marmite while losing nothing.

Marmite has a different purpose than us and a very different skill set, which is why both groups get merc work. If you want to shut down hubs/trade routes, hire Marmite or Whores. If you need someone hunted down and routed, or need a PVP/merc group pounded, hire a group like BAW or Pendulum.

Either way, it's doubtful Marmite will fold any time soon. Personally, I'm bored of Marmite running/docking every time we enter system or come near them with a fleet. It's gotten to the point where we have to bait them with mining ships to get them to aggress. Even if they did fold, they would either merge with Whores or create a new giant alliance which I hereby dub, Orphanage 3.0.

Anyways, we're dropping the war and it'll be time to shoot Whores again!

Who's running and docking? I get better and more fun fights out of eve uni & rvb than most of you so called 'highsec elite merc' groups

When marmite scatter like roaches and leave there drones on the gate lol,

We kill non WT because we like to shoot anyone and have fun.

So whos your main?

4 Week Progress Report

Since many of you Marmites (and forum trolls) seem incapable of reading comprehension and only repetitive delusional "if I say so, then it's true" type arguments; I offer this easy to follow pictorial of Marmite's 4 week failscade...

Where to begin... perhaps at the beginning when this thread had 1/2 the pages and 10% of the views.

Image 1 - The Forum Record for the fastest growing player generated thread I've ever seen in the new Eve Online Forums with the most replies, views and likes in the shortest period of time (4 weeks). http://i.imgur.com/GWIsKAE.jpg

Note: I literally received 1/3 of the total likes given in the thread (inb4 its all my alts I have screen shots it's real players)

Image 2 - This is what I log into every few hours since fighting Marmite, so content is being generated http://i.imgur.com/KWwQWSm.jpg

Image 3 to 5 - Marmite Before , During & Present Alliance Member Numbers

Before http://i.imgur.com/kVJV1q9.jpg

During http://i.imgur.com/MVDtWmv.jpg

Last Week http://i.imgur.com/y5zt0ho.jpg

Note: I've cross-checked their listed members using Eve Who and Eve Kill and found MOST of their players are inactive to not even subbed. Some of them haven't played since 2009. Typical of a Smoke & Mirror operation. You can check this yourself.

Note: What's also interesting to me is the number of corps increases while the member count decreases (perhaps from Tora's attempt to show growth using alt corps, mainly because no new corps want to join).

Image 6 - http://i.imgur.com/2TxqHHD.jpg Marmite would have a really really low efficiency if it wasn't for Freight Club and Suicide Therapy, which we haven't focused on... yet.

Note: Everybody knows Freight Club and Suicide Therapy could care less whether Marmite close doors tomorrow or not. They don't even talk to Tora have rarely, if ever and NEVER fleeted with them since our war dec. Marmite are being used for the free wars.

Many "key" members who've been with Tora since Counting With Teddy (fail) days have left. Most of them have sent me emails confirming they appreciate the light shed on how bad Marmite have been.

And finally, for the trolls who don't understand what's really going on...

Image 7 - http://i.imgur.com/2dF19l3.jpg

So Marmite is unable to operate, is failing, and can't camp any of the areas you claim to have taken over, but has double the isk killed than all of you combined for this month? That must be a massive kick to the balls.

Devil's Warrior Alliance 27.51 B <-Niarja Campers
Serious Space Holding Alliance 38.93 B <-- Jita Campers
Game of Tears 29.71 B <-Elite PvP
Mentally Assured Destruction 36.89 B <-Elite PvP
Pendulum of Doom 22.31 B <- Elite PvP
Break A Wish Foundation 19.24 B <- Elite PvP

TOTAL: 174.59 B

The destroyed Marmite Alliance that can no longer camp anything: 321.86 B


Oh yeah, Devil's Warriors Alliance. I forgot, the guys with 8.5% of Marmite's kills this month. Surely, they are the people you want to hire to do maximum isk damage.

Are you not entertained? Because I am entertained.

A heads up and quick lesson in stat reading, we and most of all the guys you posted about are merc killers not indy hunters. So, the ships we kill have guns and a point on them and have the ability to fight back. Also WITHOUT the freighter ganking padding corps you would have only destroyed 146.54B

Oh.. I'm entertained

They hire us to fight other mercs, something I've been told from many of Marmite clients that ask for help because Marmite wont help.. despite they are paying for their "protection" (Dont think they count as happy/returning customers?)
Maybe we offer another kind of service than Marmite?

And..
If you look at Marmite's kb.. all the wars from the other mercs have an effect.. just look;
July - http://p0wnd.nl/kb/index.php/alliance_detail/1/violent_systems/2013/7/
August - http://p0wnd.nl/kb/index.php/alliance_detail/1/violent_systems/2013/8/

Seems like their most violent systems have changed abit.. does it not?
Oh.. amount of kills too!

PS; I would suggest Marmite putting up a campaign on their killboard with the wars against the other mercs.

This is one of the reasons Devils in war with Marmite, your killboard is mostly just for show.
And with you admitting it.. great!
"cuz that's what clients look at when they want to hire you for the first time"

But, do like the other mercs do, please put up campaigns that look bad as well, its only reflecting the facts.
Or is your "Image" that important to you?

And yes.. we have contracts we cant fullfill aswell, but I usually refund them if I feel like we did not do our job.
That keeps my employers happy and returning.

Let me write 3 paragraphs of why I don't care and make sure I include the stats that make me happy.

Realization: Marmite does not have campaigns against any of these elite pvpers or VegasQueen. They have campaigns against Marmite. They think this is the same thing. It is not. This is very hard for them to understand due to the limited brain bandwidth or processing ability.

They also have absolutely no plan for 'beating' Marmite besides coming to the forums to cry and chest beat.

Marmite is not a merc hunting alliance. They are an interdiction alliance. They only lose isk and time by fighting people nobody is paying them to kill. Their losses are irrelevant because they make more isk, as is obvious from their killboard, than the scrublord coalition put together against them. The rest of these alliances/corps don't even compare in kill value.