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[Odyssey 1.1] Dominix bonus change

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CCP Rise
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2013-08-08 11:43:36 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Ytterbium
We are going to put a small change in for 1.1:

Dominix's drone tracking and optimal range bonus lowered from 10% per level to 7.5% per level.

This brings the bonus in line with all other damage application bonuses we give, such as turret tracking bonuses or missile explosion velocity/radius bonuses. The Dominix hasn't been oppressively powerful but it is extremely strong and there is no need for the over-allocation with regards to this bonus.

In case some of you think this is a reaction to the way the Domi performed in the alliance tournament, I can tell you that we will never make balance decisions based on that environment. The tournament certainly highlighted the strengths of sentry drones and damps, which are both powerful on TQ as well, but it removed many of their drawbacks and so it is not an effective way to assess balance or power in normal EVE.

@ccp_rise
Marc McIntyre Crendraven
Brave Empire Inc.
Brave United
#2 - 2013-08-08 11:47:38 UTC
first post!!! seems like a good idea.

Eat Lead!!! Err....Antimatter...whatever!
Anharat
Cutting Edge Incorporated
#3 - 2013-08-08 11:47:49 UTC
>has nothing to do with the tournament
>publishes the change right after the tournament
seems legit
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-08-08 11:49:22 UTC
Harvey James will be pleased.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-08-08 11:49:54 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
Anharat wrote:
>has nothing to do with the tournament
>publishes the change right after the tournament
seems legit


If I could place a bounty on you for this awful post, I would.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#6 - 2013-08-08 11:51:39 UTC
Good change, it'll still own :)

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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2013-08-08 11:57:19 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Anharat wrote:
>has nothing to do with the tournament
>publishes the change right after the tournament
seems legit


If I could place a bounty on you for this awful post, I would.

Gotta admit it is a little suspect, not as if people didn't question the wisdom of the 10% bonus prior to implementation. He is however probably telling the truth when he says the tourny was not the deciding factor, but there is no way it was not a contributing factor. Main thing is likely the FC assigned sentries from blobs in null that I hear is all the rage and has spawned Goddess knows how many threads to date.
Hannott Thanos
Squadron 15
#8 - 2013-08-08 11:57:28 UTC
Still pretty powerful, though I was thinking it was appropriate to differenciate between the Ishtar and the Domi on this bonus.

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Blawrf McTaggart
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-08-08 12:01:17 UTC
what about drone assist mechanics?
Nagarythe Tinurandir
Einheit X-6
#10 - 2013-08-08 12:05:29 UTC
i knew dominix was too good to be true...
means no more tracking of untackled frigs inside of ~15km doesn't it? ^^
Gorski Car
#11 - 2013-08-08 12:06:46 UTC
Drone assign mechanics are far more broken tbh.

Collect this post
Freighdee Katt
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-08-08 12:15:22 UTC
Not to worry. The complete overhaul of drones will square it all away.

EvE is supposed to suck.  Wait . . . what was the question?
Chi'Nane T'Kal
Interminatus
#13 - 2013-08-08 12:17:21 UTC
Nagarythe Tinurandir wrote:
i knew dominix was too good to be true...
means no more tracking of untackled frigs inside of ~15km doesn't it? ^^


Was 20km with the full bonus, so now it'll be more like 25-30.
MainTrain
Main's Moon Mining
#14 - 2013-08-08 12:23:54 UTC
Rise, you able to comment where, on the list of things to be rebalanced etc, drones currently sit
Hell Bitch
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-08-08 12:28:25 UTC
Good change and needed to happen.

Domi with 10% optimal and tracking per level pushed the new ishtar into obsolescence before it's even left the hangar, increasing the ishtars bonus's (boni, i know) to compete results in omfg overpowered mega HAC.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#16 - 2013-08-08 12:31:07 UTC
Good change, unreservedly supported.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Cameron Zero
Sebiestor Tribe
#17 - 2013-08-08 12:32:44 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Anharat wrote:
>has nothing to do with the tournament
>publishes the change right after the tournament
seems legit


If I could place a bounty on you for this awful post, I would.


You CAN place a bounty on them. Sad you can't put a detail as to why, though. (Y'all are on the CSM, "fix it!")

Also, I thought Goons were the kings of tinfoil hattery, or is that just everyone else? Blink

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. …"
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#18 - 2013-08-08 12:32:44 UTC
Hell ***** wrote:
bonus's (boni, i know)


NO!

The plural of bonus is bonuses

Anyone who tells you otherwise is an uneducated pretentious idiot.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#19 - 2013-08-08 12:33:16 UTC
Very sensible, and good to see that recently-rebalanced ships can get reviewed a couple of months down the line.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#20 - 2013-08-08 12:35:43 UTC
CCP Rise wrote:
We are going to put a small change in for 1.1:

Dominix's drone tracking and optimal range bonus lowered from 10% per level to 7.5% per level.

This brings the bonus in line with all other damage application bonuses we give, such as turret tracking bonuses or missile explosion velocity/radius bonuses. The Dominix hasn't been oppressively powerful but it is extremely strong and there is no need for the over-allocation with regards to this bonus.

In case some of you think this is a reaction to the way the Domi performed in the alliance tournament, I can tell you that we will never make balance decisions based on that environment. The tournament certainly highlighted the strengths of sentry drones and damps, which are both powerful on TQ as well, but it removed many of their drawbacks and so it is not an effective way to assess balance or power in normal EVE.



How about also changing how omni's have rather ridiculous bonuses compared to gun tracking mods?, reduce the bonus and make them scripted.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

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