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Having used both the old SiSiLauncher and the new Launcher on SiSi I have to say I prefer the old style SiSiLauncher. At least with the old style one I have the option of either clicking [Play EVE on Singularity] or [Repair My Test Client] unlike the new Launcher where I have no option.

For the test client I don’t find this a chore but for daily use of the main client it just seems to add an extra button to click to start the game (there is also a noticeable wait time while the launcher starts and does its thing), unless as others have asked you also make this the log in screen as well.

At the moment I have one account on one machine with both the SiSi test client, Duality test client and TQ client, each client has it’s own cache, settings and such like and this all takes up space, if you are now asking us to have a separate download area for each of the launcher downloaded files then I can foresee some space problems for users with multiple clients on one machine.

I would suggest at least the Launcher is given a browse button so we can put the downloaded files where we want them and also point all launchers on one machine towards the same file location. Of course this would mean the launcher would have to check the cache files first for updates before trying to do a download.

At the moment my SiSiLauncher reports I have 8.62 GB stored in the cache so if this was replicated to even 3 clients the cached files would balloon to around 26 GB if they were stored separately and as some people have reported running as many as 15 clients I dread to think of the space needed for their clients (130 GB or thereabouts).

And one final thing, you said in an answer to someone that the Launcher would not change your settings, well sorry to say from my test on SiSi (note I have used both launchers old and new), it actually made a completely new settings folder and I had to go through the complete logging in and change settings etc all over again.

At the end of the day I (just myself others have their views and I respect them), would prefer the way we do it now and just download the patch and update as many machines as we wish then archive the file somewhere safe.

Please train Humor to at least III, then re-read my original post.

Thanks in advance,
Trebor (current training Trolling to V, Mittens is making me do it)

Looks good.

If the goal is to do a staged deployment, I'd recommend:

1: Introduction Video - 5 mins - uber/pimp/blazing/awesome/1337/<9000/DnB/Techno/Dirty/Sexy
2: Character name creation stage
3: Videos for the races of EVE - 30-60 seconds each
4: Picking bloodlines
5: Videos on different 'paths' - 3-5 minutes, Aura with extra husk as VO
6: Character Avatar creation

This should help people bond with their characters, as it helps them define the reasons why they are playing - not EVE/CCP defining who they are and why they are interacting with this world.

Players should have an answer to the question "Who am I?" in a disembodied state.

If you do not let them define who they are, the (dangerous) question which is left in their head is "What am I supposed to be doing?"

If they are a vicious player, they should be able to define this through the first 30 minutes; and if they are an explorer, they need to believe that is what they are.

If they do not bond, you do not get your money at the end of the 14 days.

Regardless of what some people have said recently, our ingame persona is very important - if it doesn't define us, or allow us to define it, we will be annoyed. If we are a new player, we will leave.

AK

Exactly the same here, but on Win7-32.

Will this retain (assuming it's still going because I've not noticed it lately?) corporate advertising on the launcher screen?

This sounds interesting, hopefully will allow for some interesting reading on a patch day.

"Communation be fundamental" Is this irony or a typo or a meme? So hard to tell with these hipster devs...

I am guessing u haven't tried to NOT clock "Clear Downloaded Data" in between clients patch? Its the last page you get from the patch software.

If you do that, on the first and second client u update, it only has to download the "patch" tool @ 5MB or so per client. Then it find and checks the downloaded data, and uses it again. Then on the last 3:rd) client u patch, select it to "Clear Downloaded Data" and its like normal again.

Been doing that a while myself

Id say, control. That should be mine, and not yours.

Its like Windows update, i have a fully legal Windows 7, 64-Bit, but i don't want it patching and downloading patches when ever it feels like it. Was like the small client patches that now are different. When they first started, we could choose yes or no. Because believe me, i have been in eve long enough to know that not everything that comes from your fingers are gold and diamonds.

Same way with Real Player, Adobe little toys, Quicktime etc... Its "there" if you want to be bothered about it. Todays PCs are completely full of unwanted and not needed software, that some developer thought he could impress his boss with. This just takes resources, development time, and more important, MY time, to filter through.

When it comes to ads, one thing needs to be set straight. I pay for the accounts, i pay for the electricity to power the machine i payed for. As long as i am paying for EVE, ads is NOT accepted, unless u start giving me free game time by SELECTING that i want it this way. Use EveOnline.com for that if u want, but not the software we use to play.
Same **** with many EA games, that i HAVE to watch there dumb logo and things every time. If i have payed for it, then i should only have to view that logo presentation ONCE at most.

If you just want to make a simple thing to keep the clients in chess, thats a good thing. But when i start an eve client, i want to start eve, not a launcher that i then have to push again to start what i wanted to start in the first place. If you guys can make it possible for me to control 4 clients in 1 launcher, i could understand it, but not the way its made now.

I think since i have gone and done one more step, i am not sure it will work for me. I have 1 real eve folder, (on SSD), and 3 linked folders to that. giving me 4 "clients". These have separate setting and cache on a RAM drive, but share the clients files.
Gives me some odd things, normal patches work 100%. But these darn "client" patch needs to be done 4 times, 1 for each virtual client. I am guessing its somewhere in the cache or settings, and not in the client info, witch seems dumb.

At least i am happy you did think to make it work with multiple instances. Lets just hope u make it useful enough for us old school EVE users to feel we WANT to use it, and not having to find a way around it too.

Well, if this is like, say, Steam, then it's going to sit there in the taskbar, taking up another sliver of system resources, yes?

Or have I misread that this is always on?

Please consider allowing to pause downloads and the install itself.
tyvm