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CCP Nerfed hisec RR aggression on the sly
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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-11-10 15:49:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Skippermonkey
CCP_Navigator wrote:

game mechanics change to be applied during downtime on thursday, november 10
reported by CCP Navigator | 2011.11.10 10:33:00 | NEW

A part of the next client update will feature a change to aggression mechanics in high security space.

To benefit the EVE community at large, a small change has been made to game mechanics regarding criminal flags and how they are inherited in high security space. If a pilot is remote repairing, or otherwise assisting, another pilot who commits a criminal act then the repair module will now disengage. In order to continue repairs the module will need to be restarted and a message will appear warning of the criminal flag and possible consequences.

http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4787&tid=1

As they give nowhere to comment on this alteration, please do so below


edit - my bad, didnt notice the rather long thread on this already
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=32070&find=unread

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Soma Khan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-11-10 15:52:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Soma Khan
how is this new?
Josefius
13th Tribe of Kobol Expeditionary
#3 - 2011-11-10 15:54:29 UTC
Posting in a RR in highsec whine thread.

You have enemies? Good, that means you stood up for something, sometime in your life.

-Winston Churchill
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#4 - 2011-11-10 15:55:19 UTC
They are closing a loop-hole, not a nerf unless you are one of the let PvP'ers who can only fight by with 100% win chance or desire free loot with no effort.

Don't you think that the fact they added a warning on module activation kind of gave the intended mechanic away?
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-11-10 15:57:41 UTC
if they are all about 'closing & fixing loopholes', explain why they recently repealled their previous stance on war dec shields.

hisec is becoming increasingly more fuzzy and warm at the edges

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2011-11-10 15:57:49 UTC
Soma Khan wrote:
how is this new?
^^ That. What is the “small change” in that?
proxwar
Doomheim
#7 - 2011-11-10 15:58:11 UTC
awesome news!

But its not a nerf.

Break out the swimming gear folks cos its going to be a flood of biblical proportions from all the high sec griefers out there, especially the incursion griefers.

I shouldnt laugh, but, to hell with it. LOL
Soma Khan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2011-11-10 15:58:23 UTC
Hirana Yoshida wrote:
They are closing a loop-hole, not a nerf unless you are one of the let PvP'ers who can only fight by with 100% win chance or desire free loot with no effort.

Don't you think that the fact they added a warning on module activation kind of gave the intended mechanic away?

i hope you're right, though they are talking about criminal flagging, not aggression. so the neutral rr faggotry will continue
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-11-10 15:58:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Skippermonkey
Tippia wrote:
Soma Khan wrote:
how is this new?
^^ That. What is the “small change” in that?


meh, if it warranted a news article from CCP, i thought it coudl warrant some comment

the small change is this isnt it?

Quote:
In order to continue repairs the module will need to be restarted and a message will appear warning of the criminal flag and possible consequences.


yet another, its scary out there, maybe you shouldnt put yourself in harms way, pop-up message.

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Hwong Jian
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-11-10 16:02:48 UTC
IBTL.

Also, congratulations on your astute observation and your speed in becoming the fourth person today to create a thread about this.

Allow me to respond. Please grab a d6 (one six-sided die) and roll for my response:

1: Gosh, this will certainly ruin EVE forever!
2: Every other instance in EVE that gives a player aggression will notify the player first. This is a long overdue implementation. (Notice 'implementation' and not 'nerf' or 'change'?)
3: Thinly veiled griefer tears are still satisfying.
4: If this bothers you, perhaps the reason is because you lack the requisite courage and skill to survive outside of high security space.
5: This is an abused mechanic by high sec griefers and is probably the precursor to logistics ships gaining aggression. Long overdue.
6: HTFU!

CCP Phantom locking in 3... 2... 1...
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-11-10 16:05:23 UTC
Hwong Jian wrote:
IBTL.


i rolled a 4

i love it when people say that, its hillarious, because pvp in nulsec is large faceless blob, and pvp in losec is slightly smaller blob

i like hisec pvp

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Jack All'Trade
Doomheim
#12 - 2011-11-10 16:07:05 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
yet another, its scary out there, maybe you shouldnt put yourself in harms way, pop-up message.

yet another waah waah im lazy and low sec too scary for me so why high sec be so hard for me ccp? whine thread
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#13 - 2011-11-10 16:09:15 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
the small change is this isnt it?
Quote:
In order to continue repairs the module will need to be restarted and a message will appear warning of the criminal flag and possible consequences.
Afaik, it already warns you if you try to remote-assist a criminally flagged target…
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-11-10 16:09:28 UTC
Jack All'Trade wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
yet another, its scary out there, maybe you shouldnt put yourself in harms way, pop-up message.

yet another waah waah im lazy and low sec too scary for me so why high sec be so hard for me ccp? whine thread

Once again, this response it golden, im not going to cast aspersions to the way you play the game, but its lulzy to tell somebody to leave hisec if they want to shoot people.

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-11-10 16:10:31 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
the small change is this isnt it?
Quote:
In order to continue repairs the module will need to be restarted and a message will appear warning of the criminal flag and possible consequences.
Afaik, it already warns you if you try to remote-assist a criminally flagged target…


ok, well i havent had the chance to log in and see the differences or not, but i would have thought that if they needed to post the change as a news story, there would be SOMETHING that has changed.

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Jack All'Trade
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-11-10 16:12:01 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Jack All'Trade wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
yet another, its scary out there, maybe you shouldnt put yourself in harms way, pop-up message.

yet another waah waah im lazy and low sec too scary for me so why high sec be so hard for me ccp? whine thread

Once again, this response it golden, im not going to cast aspersions to the way you play the game, but its lulzy to tell somebody to leave hisec if they want to shoot people.

i think its lulzy to get all teary and whiny because you no longer can coward and hide when your RR alt makes a booboo.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-11-10 16:14:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Skippermonkey
Jack All'Trade wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
Jack All'Trade wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
yet another, its scary out there, maybe you shouldnt put yourself in harms way, pop-up message.

yet another waah waah im lazy and low sec too scary for me so why high sec be so hard for me ccp? whine thread

Once again, this response it golden, im not going to cast aspersions to the way you play the game, but its lulzy to tell somebody to leave hisec if they want to shoot people.

i think its lulzy to get all teary and whiny because you no longer can coward and hide when your RR alt makes a booboo.

i love it that you have no idea what you are talking about and think this is a whine thread.

fele free to hand over hisec to the wonderfully fluffy land of marshmallows and friendship if you like, but that isnt what EVE is about.

also like the fact that you hide behind a brand new forum alt because you like to talk rubbish

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2011-11-10 16:15:32 UTC
Yeah, the top story on the front page of the site is totally "on the sly"
Jack All'Trade
Doomheim
#19 - 2011-11-10 16:19:35 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
i love it that you have no idea what you are talking about and think this is a whine thread.

fele free to hand over hisec to the wonderfully fluffy land of marshmallows and friendship if you like, but that isnt what EVE is about.

if it isnt a whine thread then why you whining son?
Hwong Jian
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-11-10 16:19:39 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Hwong Jian wrote:
IBTL.


i rolled a 4

i love it when people say that, its hillarious, because pvp in nulsec is large faceless blob, and pvp in losec is slightly smaller blob

i like hisec pvp


(Time to attempt to use logic on the internet. Prepare for Rule #11.)

Why do you love it when someone says "if this bothers you"?

I could mention the times I've seen "hisec pvpers" chase someone 10 or more jumps, but immediately stop when their "prey" jumps into low sec.

I could mention the times I've gone 30 jumps through 0.0 and could count the total number of people I saw on one hand. (Even using binary, that still would be no more than 31.)

I could mention that the best solo fights I've ever had were in low sec, and that a fleet of 12 ships is considered a "large blob".

But I didn't.

I simply said "if this change bothers you" and then implied that there was a high probability that the type of person who would find that change upsetting were the skill-less griefers, gankbears, or people that refuse to get into a fight unless they're guaranteed a risk-free kill.

So, allow me to slip into a bit of "internet slang."

u mad, bro?
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