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Ynot Eyob

Nisroc Angels

The Obsidian Front - Reborn

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#1 - 2013-07-25 09:49:35 UTC | Edited by: Ynot Eyob

After reading this:
http://themittani.com/features/james-315-how-fix-supercaps?page=0%2C0

And after reading and seeing the power i kind of agree with some of it.

Super Carrier and Titans are stil VERY power full, but also very exspensiv.
I wouldnt personal change any of them, but look at the Rock, Paper and Sissors..

If you look at supers and Titans as a Rock i would make paper.

Make the Black Ops, able to carry super bombs, that only works on capitals and do X% damage of the hull of whats its hitting.

It will turn the Black Ops to more than just a mini titan, which is more or less useless for anything else, and often to exspensiv to lose in battle, compared to ship size, and class.

Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".

Swiftstrike Incorporated 912
Swiftstrike1 Swiftstrike Incorporated Likes received: 912	#2 - 2013-07-25 09:53:51 UTC If Titans and Super-carriers are the rock then you want to make the paper, not the scissors. Also, this is a terrible idea. I'm afraid I can't find any positive feedback to provide on this =/ Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.

CODE.d 6,149
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d Likes received: 6,149	#3 - 2013-07-25 10:03:25 UTC Instead of a superbomb, how about two bomb launchers and a Covert Ops Cloak? I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.


Ynot Eyob Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front - Reborn Likes received: 445	#4 - 2013-07-25 10:14:15 UTC Swiftstrike1 wrote: If Titans and Super-carriers are the rock then you want to make the paper, not the scissors. Also, this is a terrible idea. I'm afraid I can't find any positive feedback to provide on this =/ Changed for Paper. So i would like to know why its a terrible idear? Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".

Ynot Eyob

Nisroc Angels

The Obsidian Front - Reborn

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#5 - 2013-07-25 10:16:52 UTC

Arthur Aihaken wrote:

Instead of a superbomb, how about two bomb launchers and a Covert Ops Cloak?

I didnt wanted to make another super weapon.

I do use Black Ops quite often, and ya i do miss the Covert Ops Cloke, but im also affraid of the power it would get. Like the HIC i just saw a way to balance Supers without nerfing them even more.

Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".

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Katrina Oniseki Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive Likes received: 3,476	#6 - 2013-07-25 10:29:09 UTC Ynot Eyob wrote: I didnt wanted to make another super weapon. If a bomb is a weapon, then a super bomb is a super weapon. Direct hull damage is a bad idea. % based damage is a bad idea. Direct hull % based damage is a magnificently bad idea. You're terrible at balancing, Tony. Katrina Oniseki

Luxembourg Space Union 402
Lephia DeGrande Luxembourg Space Union Likes received: 402	#7 - 2013-07-25 10:51:33 UTC 1 Black Ops shouldnt be a big Stealh Bomber Version, they should be able to sneak behind Enemy Lines Open the doors into SOV to prepar war AND fight with the Same ship in a fleet Battle without refitting first. Its a highly specialized T2 Ship! Meet the Mario Kart 8 - Capsuleer Club Cup

Ynot Eyob

Nisroc Angels

The Obsidian Front - Reborn

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#8 - 2013-07-25 11:00:13 UTC

Katrina Oniseki wrote:

Ynot Eyob wrote:

I didnt wanted to make another super weapon.

If a bomb is a weapon, then a super bomb is a super weapon.

Direct hull damage is a bad idea. % based damage is a bad idea. Direct hull % based damage is a magnificently bad idea.

You're terrible at balancing, Tony.

Im talking about % of hull left.

So if 100 HP and 33% damage then 33 HP damage
Next is 33% of 77HP

This way instead of nerfing the total HP of the supers to become a Tier 3 look alike super carrier, you have a counter to hit the Capitals into HP which can be countered.

And Again, why is it a bad idear?

Its easy to say idears are bad, but if you dont argument to why its a bad idear, its to easy to just whine and complain, once they will get nerfed, which they will.

Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".

Ynot Eyob

Nisroc Angels

The Obsidian Front - Reborn

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#9 - 2013-07-25 11:03:33 UTC

Lephia DeGrande wrote:

Black Ops shouldnt be a big Stealh Bomber Version, they should be able to sneak behind Enemy Lines Open the doors into SOV to prepar war AND fight with the Same ship in a fleet Battle without refitting first.

Its a highly specialized T2 Ship!

I agree, it shouldnt be a big stealth bomber version, but a 2nd darry role would be nice to see.

You are a bout to go into an engagement, and you have the Black sitting along you Capitals for a purpose waiting for a cyno.

Once cyno is up, The Black Ops main targets would be Capitals, along with problally dreads.
The Black Ops shot the Supers, making them more killable for the dreads to finish of.

It will give Black Ops pilot another chance to say "I Was there"

Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".


Lephia DeGrande Luxembourg Space Union Likes received: 402	#10 - 2013-07-25 11:31:06 UTC The question is do they need their own Bombs/Bomblaunchers, or the ability to fit Capital Weapons or just some special Ship Bonus or Role Bonusses? Meet the Mario Kart 8 - Capsuleer Club Cup

Ynot Eyob

Nisroc Angels

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#11 - 2013-07-25 12:32:12 UTC | Edited by: Ynot Eyob

Lephia DeGrande wrote:

The question is do they need their own Bombs/Bomblaunchers, or the ability to fit Capital Weapons or just some special Ship Bonus or Role Bonusses?

Like the ECM burst and doomsday it should be a new mod and Role Bonus.

It will have Super Capitals or Capitals over all a need for sup Capitals in their fleet, and give everyone a role in bigger engagements.

Cyno up, Dreads in, Black Ops brigde Bombers in with mabe Void Bombs and follow, to cap out and with Black Ops support hit a target and reduce base HP with mabe 33%, make the enemy Capitals killable for the dreads. It will give the oponent sup Capitals a goal to remove anti Capitals.

Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".

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Sakaron Hefdover Perkone Caldari State Likes received: 44	#12 - 2013-07-25 12:48:49 UTC are these bombs AOE or like a missile launcher?


Ynot Eyob Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front - Reborn Likes received: 445	#13 - 2013-07-25 12:53:36 UTC Sakaron Hefdover wrote: are these bombs AOE or like a missile launcher? Well it could be any type of speciel gun / bomb really, i just thought a bomb effect on a super or Capital losing 33% HP would look awesome. Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".

Arthur Aihaken

CODE.d

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#14 - 2013-07-25 13:29:26 UTC

MINES. "Black Ops battleships are designed for infiltration and espionage behind enemy lines." Introduce a new stationary mine along the lines of bombs, with the same damage but a smaller explosion radius. One mine deployed per launcher (maximum). Detection range would be dependent on Black Ops skill level. Allow them to be deployed cloaked, and remotely detonated within targeting range. Great fun at parties.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.


Lephia DeGrande Luxembourg Space Union Likes received: 402	#15 - 2013-07-25 13:57:29 UTC +1 because of explosions Meet the Mario Kart 8 - Capsuleer Club Cup

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Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge Likes received: 23,523	#16 - 2013-07-25 18:52:10 UTC Ynot Eyob wrote: I didnt wanted to make another super weapon. He says while proposing a super bomb. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*

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Erutpar Ambient The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 194	#17 - 2013-07-26 02:45:40 UTC 1 If only we had a Doomsday Device or something...... >.>;; Also.... Mother of god, how could you read that pile of crap? Or did you just start skimming it when his arrogance became redundant?

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Shiera Kuni Electric Machete Likes received: 64	#18 - 2013-07-26 05:13:23 UTC Samus Aran says no touching her superbombs! Just because you need the Cov-Ops skill to train for Black Ops, that doesn't make Black Ops a battleship version of a Stealth Bomber, far from it. Going by your logic Black Ops ships should also be able to use Citadel Torpedoes. CCP Falcon: This thread is terrible.

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Paikis Vapour Holdings Likes received: 1,421	#19 - 2013-07-26 05:20:00 UTC Black Ops should only be able to fit Citadel Torpedoes!

Jarlhettur's Drop United Federation of Conifers 411
HiddenPorpoise Jarlhettur's Drop United Federation of Conifers Likes received: 411	#20 - 2013-07-26 06:32:15 UTC Why are you siting a high sec ganker on how to fix supercaps anyway?