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CCP SERVER ENGINEERS ARE IN TEST

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MyBoy friday
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#401 - 2013-07-04 23:39:51 UTC
I'm not going to get on the CCP is Test argument, although it sounds very suspicious at this point.
I just don't care about that.

However, it seems quite reasonable to ask the question, when will CCP begin firing or reassigning their employees who are not capable of doing their jobs?
This is a huge customer service issue.
You expect players to:

1. pay for the service
2. risk their earned in-game assets in order to generate content in the game according to the structure that CCP alone has devised.
3. attract new players/subscribers

And yet, you seem incapable of properly vetting employees to insure that they posses the skills to support a simple service.
This was not an act of God, or serendipity. It was an act committed by a CCP employee, accidental or not, which caused tangible losses to it's customers. There is NO other industry where compensation would not be immediately granted to the customer.

Just saying.

Maybe some time on a mop will sharpen your sysadmin's skills.
Ming Tso
Perkone
Caldari State
#402 - 2013-07-04 23:39:56 UTC
I, for one, oppose all forms of meta gaming from the Goon spies that did this to mess up all our fun.

No fun allowed, indeed.
Yornic
Jackets Corporation
#403 - 2013-07-04 23:40:03 UTC
Yuluthu wrote:
I'm actually angry enough that I can't focus


It's okay, you need to focus your anger into something productive. Just hug yourself and think of something you can be angry at. Concentrate, and you will find your inner self, your true self. It is okay. You don't have to hate yourself, we here at TEST are here for you, for we love you.
Danny Calamity
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#404 - 2013-07-04 23:40:11 UTC
Prop Wash wrote:
Yeah I don't really care about any CCP bias/metagaming accusations and related silliness, I think in this case it's enough to know that CCP massively messed this one up and leave it at that.


Careful. Mittens will probably commissar anyone who doesn't tow the line on this one.
Khandu Eesi
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
#405 - 2013-07-04 23:40:25 UTC
EvE Online Forums hit 10% TIDI....
Heavy Met4l Queen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#406 - 2013-07-04 23:40:31 UTC
The only thing that makes me more happy today than sipping on nullbear tears is knowing that summer is nowhere near over, ensuring more fights, more shineys exploding, and more tears to go around.

In the game of conquest, who cares about the pawns if the king yet reigns?
Zeph1rus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#407 - 2013-07-04 23:40:36 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
digi wrote:
I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it.
We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this.

We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.


This is a poor non-response to the issue. We get it, you screwed up, but you should not have been screwing with an active fight. Mistakes only happen if you put yourself in the position to make them.


What are you doing to fix this issue. This fight had massive consequences, and you cannot hand-wave and go "oops".

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#408 - 2013-07-04 23:40:45 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Imodesky Kafelnikov wrote:
ito kazami wrote:
fisrt , we want a ccp internal affairs investigation , too much N3 / test favouring lately to be coincidence.

2nd , we want those carriers and battleships saved by ccp to be removed from the game

3rd , we want ccp to invest in reliable servers

4th, could we get cheese with that?

But only if it's good cheese - maybe a nice block of swiss or pepperjack, or a tub of brie or port wine... none of that Kraft American Singles or Cheez Whiz crap.

Ahh yeah, I second pepperjack. That stuff is amazing.

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Pohk Ordach
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#409 - 2013-07-04 23:41:06 UTC
Im tooooooootaaaalllyyyyy enjoying this 21 pages of CFC tears

This is victory for EvE
Scooter McCabe
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#410 - 2013-07-04 23:41:07 UTC
Everyone needs to chill CCP had their hands full and I don't know any other game out yet that can have this level of fights. We know everyone is raring to go.... Well not TEST exactly:

Quote:
pls dont log into z9 im not doing the sota right now because youve been on for 7 hours in a row and its a us holiday go get laid or something#### SENT BY BoodaBooda to Allies @ 2013-07-04 22:37:41 EVE Time ####


TEST pilots dodging a fight and Booda hiding under his own bed from a SOTA that involves a Q&A session.
Zer Res
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#411 - 2013-07-04 23:41:11 UTC
any answer for why you waited 7 hours before doing anything?
Minaro Shina
off course
#412 - 2013-07-04 23:41:17 UTC
Cor Six wrote:

Stop trying to tinfoil.


Cor Six wrote:

CCP Dolan is prob involved here somewere to save his "test bros"


lol
Synryder
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#413 - 2013-07-04 23:41:20 UTC
WOW.....Didn't realize the CFC had so many little ******s in their Group of scrubs....just WOW!!!!!!!!

CFC TEARS = BEST TEARS
Candy Mountainn
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#414 - 2013-07-04 23:41:20 UTC
UclanChar wrote:
It saddens me to see such mindless trolling taking place.

Like CCP care about which alliance wins what fight. Seriously guys, have a word with yourselves.

People overlooking the astounding technical feat of having over 2,000 active connections to the node and the fact they were taking measures to *increase* that number for the greater enjoyment of everyone involved.

Yeah, someone made a mistake. That guy probably doesn't even need to be punished because he is probably going to kick himself for weeks (and be the butt of office jokes for months!). When you take pride in your work mistakes don't need to be punished because you punish yourself.

Perhaps something good will come of this. Maybe an automated system to do what that engineer was attempting to do. Look to the future and think of the positive things this could create.

UC.


Yea im sure CCP Dolan is kicking himself real hard right now with a giant bat of SMUG.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#415 - 2013-07-04 23:41:31 UTC
Axhind wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
CCP Phantom wrote:
digi wrote:
I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it.
We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this.

We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.


problem is as your tech gets better they will blob more and more in system. its a war that can never be won.

i remember after dominion you could not do more then 1200 in system with out the server crashing...

now you can do 2100 plus

if you made it stable under 4000 they would try to cram in 5000 and complain about it.


There is a huge difference between node crash (nobody would make a big stink about it) and some admin actually ruining an awesome fight in which people invested 5-6 hours plus it saves tons of ships for one side in the biggest war in the game.

Two very different things. All players whine about crashes but we understand it happens. This is different. This just pisses off anyone for interfering with the most important war in 0.0



why do you think if ccp was not messing around there would not have been a crash like an hour into it?

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#416 - 2013-07-04 23:41:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Toshiro Ozuwara
Conversation with pleaseignore.com at 7/4/2013 4:39:35 PM on (jabber)

(4:39:35 PM) pleaseignore.com:

RIGHT WHERE WE WANT 'EM

#### SENT BY BoodaBooda to All online test @ 2013-07-04 23:39:39 EVE Time ####



CCP BOODABOODA


^^^

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays
Danny Calamity
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#417 - 2013-07-04 23:41:42 UTC
BoodaBooda wrote:
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:
Danny Calamity wrote:
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:


Take the 117 trapped capitals away from the pilots that were trapped. They were dead and you should recognise this, I think!

But yeah this was a mistake on CCP's side, an unfortunate mistake, and people calling ~THREADNOUGHT DEV ALLIANCE PLZ IGNORE~ are dumb


You mad about losing Recon V? We had you guys right where we wanted you.


you're still losing fountain lmao


We are? lol


Ignore him, he's just pretty hurt over losing Recon V. Now he can't participate in honorable goon cloaky camps anymore.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#418 - 2013-07-04 23:41:43 UTC
TEST and N3 are so bad they need CCP to save them lmao

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Voyan Ageri
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#419 - 2013-07-04 23:41:45 UTC
Khandu Eesi wrote:
EvE Online Forums hit 10% TIDI....


We should probably move some non-critical services away from this thread.
ectweak
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#420 - 2013-07-04 23:41:47 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
digi wrote:
I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it.
We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this.

We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.


So WHY does the server not save the state prior to being reset (retaining any combat flags related to the ships) and instead give all parties the option of getting a free safe log-off?

The amount of irritation in this thread isn't the fact that the servers were reset (which is in itself an aggravation) but the fact that current mechanics wipes ALL combat from the server at the time a reset button is pressed. there was a supposed change to the combat flags to better reinforce the motto of "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" by making ships no longer disappear after 15 minutes if someone is still shooting them. Now, it is more of "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose, except for when CCP screws up and restarts the server, then you get your stuff out scot-free."