Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Uh huh.



In EVE: "Disgruntled player sells out entire alliance to the enemy... clicks button and ruins the fun and effort that thousands of players put into making it."
In RL: Being a traitor/rebel in RL is no laughing matter. Especially if it kicks off the "end" of an entire nation. People tend to get massacred over things like that.

Or...

In EVE: "Players can play the market with few rules to stop or limit them. If someone wants to rig the market... destroy commodity prices... or collapse the economy of a region... they can do it. And sometimes even make a profit off of it. All at everyone else's detriment."
In RL: Market manipulation and price rigging usually results in jail time (if the unwashed mobs don't get to you first)... mostly because it fucks over all the other "fat cats'" calculations and can potentially send large numbers of people into poverty (usually the middle class to poor people).

Or...

In EVE: "No place in EVE is safe. Even if you stay in an NPC corp to avoid war-decs, you can still be suicide ganked."
In RL:
- BANZAII!!!!! *plane crash*
- ALLAH AUACKBAR!!! *vest/car/plane bomb*

Or...

In EVE: "The Minmatar were once enslaved by the Amarr Empire for hundreds of years." Turns out the only race with a true "black" bloodline happens to be Minmatar.
In RL: The Trangular trade.


Pro-tip: Don't try to be politically correct in a game that laughs at it.

edit: now that I think about it... the only taboo that hasn't really been brought up in some form is baby eating. CCP!! This grave oversight must be corrected!!!

I suppose we could get into the idea of making Scientists and Homeless useful as well. Scientists help on research and homeless collect passive income along with the exotic dancers. Very low income of course so you need millions

I'd contest that Amarrian slave labour should be the least effective... it's relatively well documented that uneducated, low-skilled slaves tend to work very hard, but still be less productive than a supported, educated workforce.


If we really wanted (and I don't think it's a good idea) some sort of "racial" effectiveness, I think it should go like this:

1. Caldari. Capitalist extremists, with the bottom line being the driving factor for their entire society. Educated and technically advanced, they are naturally, the most productive.

2. Gallente. With all their drones and stuff, you'd think they'd take first place. But them lazy, self-indulgent bourgeoisie can't be bothered, so even with their advantages, they only come in second.

3. Minmatar. They aren't much better than their slave brethren, with only slightly more education, but at least they're free and they've got a nice external enemy to focus on.

4. Amarr. As noted, slaves don't tend to make the most productive workforce.

atleast it's green energy

Dont forget about methane exretion etc.

So in this situation you have described. Do the homeless go both ways? Where they can become slaves or freedom fighters?

The homeless could be like your adaptive meat bag while your scientists, marines, and janitors could be your specialized. Maybe they should all be paid on their amount of skill. With slaves not being paid at all

Usefull minnie slaves?
Doubt it.
Maybe they could be cattle that gals eat for dinner?

You assume that all slavery requires slaves to be low-skilled and uneducated.

Maybe in menial tasks like farming (but even that requires education on what to do when where and why). For the most part though, a slave is taught everything they need to perform a given task, if that is maintaining the electrical systems of a ship or piece of equipment, then by george they will be taught as an electrician.

A slave is simply oen who bears limited rights within a society and a subservient role to members of a higher caste, no where in that description does it require them to be low-skilled or uneducated, in fact an uneducated slave is a TERRIBLE slave.

And no, education isnt what "makes them want their freedom", there are cases in actual cultures where a class that is beaten and downtrodden, even after being given education, still accept their subservient role, ebcause of a Hegemony, they believe that is the way things are and the way they will be, so they dont TRY and change it, that is how you enforce slavery, by educating them as to WHY they are slaves and WHY it will not change, then they believe it and no amount of skills or education will change their mind.


now im not promoting slavery, but from a practical standpoint, large-scale slavery for industrial purposes is exactly the same as just employing thousands of trained workers for the job, the difference being these workers have no requirements other than food/water/shelter (and providing thsoe 3 assets insetad of an actual pay also contributes to a passive non-revolutionary slave populace, heck, it was used against american workers in coal-towns for decades, they werent even slaves, but suffered horrible conditions and tied themselves to their company because the economic state the company put them in made them believe they could never get out).

How about the idea of being able to send slaves and other passengers to the planets to improve the work and production of PI goods as well as spaceship building?