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Get rid of gate camps.

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Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-06-26 11:35:15 UTC
Majindoom Shi wrote:
Get rid of gate camps.


No. HTFU.

NEXT!
Shawnm339
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-06-26 11:37:02 UTC
Don't get rid of gate camps it's where I get most of my kills from, in all seriousness if you're stupid enough to fly system to system with no clue of who's ahead or what's following you, you didn't deserve that sleipnir anyway
Jexis Ghan
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-06-26 11:38:58 UTC
Gate camps well you will never do away with them, i personaly think that i have had a minor victory when i get away from one .The only type of camp i would like to see an end to would be the smart bomb camps they are a pain in the cargo hold, especialy when you think you are jumping then you stare lovingly at your frozen corps and the realization you are dead without even having a chance of moving your pod to safety.
Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-06-26 11:44:13 UTC
Gate camps are an integral part of EvE Online. Nothing more needs to be said. Arrow
Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
#25 - 2013-06-26 11:49:12 UTC
Majindoom Shi wrote:
So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.......




This paired with your Corp and description....

Quote:
We the Gankers [TGNKS]
"We gank, that is all"


Made me giggle.

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#26 - 2013-06-26 11:59:51 UTC
The fail is strong with this idea.

I foresee greatness ahead for the OP in future threads.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-06-26 12:31:15 UTC
Mandatory Statement: WOW is that way............

Signatured removed, CCP Phantom
Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-06-26 12:36:01 UTC
You can already get rid of gatecamps - explode the campers..
Domer Pyle
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-06-26 12:54:02 UTC
if you wanna pvp, go play tf2 or something. eve isn't a game for that nonsense.

"Imagine if the bars to your prison were all you had ever known. Then one day, someone appears and unlocks the door. If they have the power to do this, then are they really the liberator? You never remembered who it was that closed you in." - Ior Labron
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#30 - 2013-06-26 13:33:44 UTC
Bloody Wench wrote:
Malcanis you're turning into a shitposter. Welcome aboard.


Easiest way to 'fix' gates is make the 'ball' you spawn in once jumping through 200kms radius.

If you get caught at a camp in a system you are already in, then you deserve it.

Give a man a title and this happens. Is it to late to retract my vote?
Etteluor
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2013-06-26 13:34:42 UTC
Dorrann wrote:
Gates are fine.
Camps are the issue.
Campers blow up everything they are able to catch and kill, regardless of value, be that Isk or Tactical.
IF campers took the time to scan a ship to see if it had anything worth the ammo of killing and released those ships that did not, then you might see some decent gameplay.
However, there is always the Killmail Value and Bragging Rights, and aslong as those things carry any kind of weight, gate camps will remain until there is a better/easier way for the campers to get their jollies.

The problem here isnt the mechanics, its the nature of the human animal.



What exactly is the problem?
ChYph3r
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2013-06-26 13:35:44 UTC
Majindoom Shi wrote:
So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.
I Do not have the full details on how this will work out.
My goal is not to lower the amount of pvp but do something to increase it.
Gate camps to me are not real pvp. I would like ccp to implement something to add more pvp to EVE without the use of gate camps. I am not sure what they could do to make this happen but I would like to see more pvp but little to no gate camps at all.

Maybe add lvl 6 agent to low to draw people into system and engage them at the site. Like i said I don't know how to pull this off but gate camps are boring and lame there needs to be a lot more options for pvp



this coming from the Op being in We The Gankers......interesting

stay in empire if you dont like it.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#33 - 2013-06-26 13:45:13 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Bloody Wench wrote:
Malcanis you're turning into a shitposter. Welcome aboard.


Easiest way to 'fix' gates is make the 'ball' you spawn in once jumping through 200kms radius.

If you get caught at a camp in a system you are already in, then you deserve it.

Give a man a title and this happens. Is it to late to retract my vote?


It is. But you can hardly complain because I was exactly the same before and campaigned on a promise to keep right on being mean to people who make bad posts with horrible self-serving, game-wrecking suggestions.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#34 - 2013-06-26 13:49:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Gate campers are easy prey for a good PvPer. They generally have a lower skill level than the ones out roaming in smaller groups, they are often afk relying on the rest of the group to protect them, and they're usually slow because they don't have to catch up with anyone as they know where they will come from. Also, they're rarely organised enough to have a good fleet comp, they don't really use Ewar or logi very often.

For someone who actually PvPs, a good gatecamp is a blessing. Without gates as gathering points for combat, PvP would be very difficult to find. Gate camps are good.

The problem we have is one with education. A few basic tips would be enough to stop anyone but the ignorant getting caught in them;

- Use your map stats to check for deaths per system.
- avoid lowsec entry point with only one entrance.
- Use a scout or something tanky with dual prop.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#35 - 2013-06-26 13:53:50 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Only way to get rid of gate camps is to do away with the blob warfare, as a way to encourage small gang PvP (which should be the main PvP fare as it encourages having fun with your RL friends).

But the main problem is the cost to PvP is so high. Want more PvP and even attract more PvErs to engage in it here and there, the price for it has to come down. With the inflation in the game (100% ratio in 3 years), that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Wow you're right. OK I just used my time machine and went back in time and forced the devs on Team Five-0 to completely rework the entire range of T1 frigates and cruisers for the Retribution expansion, so that they're amazingly good now. They didn't want to make it possible to buy viable PvP hulls for under 10 mill ISK and fly them with less than 1M SP, but when they saw the pictures I had of them, the sheep and the jello tub, well, that argument was soon ended.

(Of course they'll pretend they wanted to do this all along. But now you know the truth.)

I also notice that you've been a busy boy and used your time machine to go back and change the economy sot that the inflation in the game is ~0% over six years...

See, this is why I voted for you for the CSM: because you are not afraid to do these large drastic measures, and do them with your own hands.

\o/
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#36 - 2013-06-26 13:56:39 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Only way to get rid of gate camps is to do away with the blob warfare, as a way to encourage small gang PvP (which should be the main PvP fare as it encourages having fun with your RL friends).

But the main problem is the cost to PvP is so high. Want more PvP and even attract more PvErs to engage in it here and there, the price for it has to come down. With the inflation in the game (100% ratio in 3 years), that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Wow you're right. OK I just used my time machine and went back in time and forced the devs on Team Five-0 to completely rework the entire range of T1 frigates and cruisers for the Retribution expansion, so that they're amazingly good now. They didn't want to make it possible to buy viable PvP hulls for under 10 mill ISK and fly them with less than 1M SP, but when they saw the pictures I had of them, the sheep and the jello tub, well, that argument was soon ended.

(Of course they'll pretend they wanted to do this all along. But now you know the truth.)

I also notice that you've been a busy boy and used your time machine to go back and change the economy sot that the inflation in the game is ~0% over six years...

See, this is why I voted for you for the CSM: because you are not afraid to do these large drastic measures, and do them with your own hands.

\o/


Time Machines are pretty useful. Pity about that 18-month tachyon storm blocking off 2009-2010 though.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#37 - 2013-06-26 13:59:58 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Tippia wrote:

I also notice that you've been a busy boy and used your time machine to go back and change the economy sot that the inflation in the game is ~0% over six years...

See, this is why I voted for you for the CSM: because you are not afraid to do these large drastic measures, and do them with your own hands.

\o/


Time Machines are pretty useful. Pity about that 18-month tachyon storm blocking off 2009-2010 though.


It is a pity. If you could of fixed that we might have had WiS by now.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2013-06-26 14:01:04 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Gate campers are easy prey for a good PvPer. They generally have a lower skill level than the ones out roaming in smaller groups, they are often afk relying on the rest of the group to protect them, and they're usually slow because they don't have to catch up with anyone as they know where they will come from. Also, they're rarely organised enough to have a good fleet comp, they don't really use Ewar or logi very often.


Okay, the Niaja gate camp is calling for you. I'm sure the Goons will just be so kind to let you single handily wipe them out.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-06-26 14:01:24 UTC
What I don't like about gate camps is the fact that the only successful counter involves a cyno and titan bridge.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#40 - 2013-06-26 14:08:18 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Arduemont wrote:
Gate campers are easy prey for a good PvPer. They generally have a lower skill level than the ones out roaming in smaller groups, they are often afk relying on the rest of the group to protect them, and they're usually slow because they don't have to catch up with anyone as they know where they will come from. Also, they're rarely organised enough to have a good fleet comp, they don't really use Ewar or logi very often.


Okay, the Niaja gate camp is calling for you. I'm sure the Goons will just be so kind to let you single handily wipe them out.


I prefer the Gonditsa gate camps.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf