Player Features and Ideas Discussion

We already have battleships equipped with covert jump drives. Unless you're proposing that the Black Ops have its toes thoroughly stepped on, the only way to be sneaky is with a covops cloak and the ability to be covert bridged but not open a bridge itself.

Recon ships are beyond the scope of this thread, but my personal opinion is that they desperately need to have their classes merged the way Command Ships are getting, with both recons able to fit covops cloaks and having appropriate bonuses.

Making a combat/attack blackops ship is a worthy consideration but not quite what marauders should become I think.

Delineating your t2 ships you have in a very rough sense many combat classes and most of these are centralised around PVP activity. Some of these ships get re-fit to do PVE work but it is uncommon and sometimes the T1 hulls are better at it. It all gets a bit hazy once you hit battleships because they are at the top of the pyramid, there are only 12 t1 battleship hulls in the game compared with 16 cruisers, 28 frigates and 12 battlecruisers.

When rebalancing t1 battleships occured we see a shift in focus toward higher damage output, easier damage application and an over-all reduction in EHP partially through resist nerfs and partially through stat line changes. If T2 is supposed to be a facet of the t1 hull taken in one direction to the point of specialisation then the following T2 lines of HAC/Recon/Interdictor are the most appropriate ones to use because they are totally PVP centric.

One way to look at it is: what key roles should we be taking from cruisers and be extrapolating on to battleships?

Blackops: oversized recon ships. Remain much as they are now. Maybe make them a bit more glass cannon.

Marauder: oversized HACs. Current bonuses reviewed and changed towards having (at max skills) an effective of 12 guns/launchers. Relevant tanking slots should be at 8 minimum with secondary tank/utility slots reduced to 4. T2 resist profiles similar to HACs although perhaps slightly lower (eg for kronos therm/kinetic resists *not* above 60% natively). Currently only pirate ships approach this level of power, but are often more forgiving in terms of fittings and have more utilitarian bonuses for ganks.

And finally your battleship interdictor: supertanked, sub-par dps and maybe a range bonus to HICtor points. How you would balance this particular breed of battleship I will leave to the think-tank.

I don't fly dictors so I wouldn't know. Maybe because sig bloom means capital guns can hit them?

Bro.

dictors are fast and drop a 30 sec bubble. no sig radius penalty
hics can permabubble, are highly mobile, but cant mwd or burn effectively. sig penalty. with t2 and max skillz, it can throw a huge bubble.
if we had a bs hic, it would be immobile, but could perma bubble the size of a t2 large. it should be able to bring up and let down its bubble without the 5 minute anchor of a t2 large.

good tank, great resists, lower dps. not able to rr while in bubble mode.

would be great for leaving at a gate cloaked while you are expecting enemy reinforcements to come fight over a pos. have some bombers standing by and when they jump in, evryone uncloak and bubble for 40+km. bombs away...

i dont see this though even though i want one. hics do a great job.
the t2 hac might be a thing.

i think they will stick with the exploration side. self supportive. scanner, maybe jump drive.

Give it a HUGE smartbomb.

40KM range, (20KM radius)

But multispectrum, and friendly boats would be just as much at risk as hostile.

Vulnerable strategy, if used at a gatecamp? (everyone thinks of gate camps for this stuff...)
Others can send in a decoy, waste the bomb on them, and the really high value target skates through after. Noone would be inside the 40KM range except the Marauder, with a BS's notoriously slow lock time.

T2 ships are supposed to represent an extreme direction, as opposed to the basic generalized nature of T1 ships, and the boosted faction with generally superior overall stats.

Plus, what range would the sword have?
Would the Amarr version be a light saber?

how to insult a french man.

tell him you spit on his cheese and gargle his wine!

listen here, frenchie!
i can send the lynch mob to your house too once its done with fozzie...

i will bring my t1 industrial over and nos you to death..

i better not see rise on here next talking trash or i will make TONS more idle threats against you guys...

can we know it noooooow????