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Yes it does. Changing cycle times is inherently more complex because moon miner and reaction cycle times are tied to fuel cycle times.

I'd like to thank the people who skimmed the blog and didn't actually read it for giving me such a good laugh on an otherwise depressing day.

Well, while I think its a good idea, I dont like that when comparing the current fuel usage to what the new blocks will take , I am now gonna be spending more for tower fuel ....but , i guess atleast they are trying

Just another voice about faction towers. Reduced fuel consumption is their biggest bonus and nothing else can sufficiently replace it. Losing that bonus under proposed system is a big hit.

More than that, where the sov bonus will go ? I am afraid, that you are in such rush now, that are unable to think about bigger picture. Seriously, someone at CCP should think about game as a whole and not depend only on some coder, who was given 1 hour to think about an issue and suffered with tunnel vision at the same time, thus forgetting about solution as simple as 2+2. Yea, I mean x100 approach, already given by players on a moments notice.

Losing/ getting some bonuses because of :insert gameplay reason here: is one thing and should always be open to discussion, losing them because of a shortsighted dev - big no no.

But I would like to talk about faction towers from just another point of view. Them losing bonus is a shame, them stopping to drop long ago - even bigger shame, because it was never explained why by CCP. But under current proposal their comeback would have no sense anyway. What is a big pitty, they long ago been a savior for otherwise dull and unprofitable mag sites.

There already is not so much "big hits" in possible drops. Every NPC activity in EVE is becoming more and more monotonous, be it mining, ratting or even exploring and sleeper stuff. You feel like sitting at a conveyor belt or an office 8 h per day. There is less and less place for an "adventurer" style, when you miserably spend half off the life wandering around, but hoping to find a rough diamond one day. Granted, there still are officers, still are rare drops from plexes, but other mini professions have lost that "woohoo" flavor. There is not so much stuff in EVE to make that flavor, and you are just trying to finally kill one of them.

Chiming in to indicate that I'm favorable towards the "granularize the fuel" camp. Have the recipe make 400 cubelets of 0.5 m³ instead of 4 cubes each of 50 m³ each (these are still gigantic compared to say trit). This would allow you the granularity to have the faction/sov reductions have a graduated impact.

Seriously - we're more worried about how much place it takes and how many trips do I need to do than about x number of cubes.

or heck make the BPO/C make 200 cubes of 1m³ which gives you a 2% granularity with the simplification for "space" calculations.

Instead of the half and half fuel thing, have you considered just converting or replacing fuel in towers at downtime? This seems better than having to ensure each of our 100 pos has a 50/50 fuel mix in two weeks. Then having to haul back the old fuel type afterwards.

I would much prefer every tower just getting 2 weeks of fuel pellets.

O M G

Easily best change of the upcoming patch (assuming it comes out in the upcoming patch) \o/

As an owner of a stupidly expensive, partially vulnerable ship, having to fuel a ridiculous amount of towers for staging/safekeeping just got OMFG so much easier.

Now if only you had put out these changes BEFORE I anchored/onlined >9000 guns/jammers/etc etc.....

Ur deffo on the right track...now if only you could get more...competent.... personnel to work on forum bans/temp bans......(GM Panic I'm looking at you...you already cost CCP a couple subscriptions)

-Tokino/LS

I did some analysis using these numbers, compared to what I am using for fuel now and got these results:

Currently I run a Medium Faction (Tier 2) tower. I bought it because it was CHEAPER to RUN!!! This tower is in highsec and has been run near-continuously for over two years now (in various locations).

I have a system, where I dump fuel into the fuel bay in 500-hour bunches (usually straight from the anchored corp hanger next to it). Since I keep certain things offline, to save fuel, I am at less than maximum needs for Heavy Water and Liquid Ozone.

I dump:

500x Charters
500x Robotics
1000x Uranium
1500x Mechanical Parts
2000x Coolant
3500x Oxygen
7500x Liquid Ozone
17000x Heavy Water
84500x Racial Isotopes

To make the fuel blocks to give me the same duration, I will need:
500x Charters
250x Robtics (half current)
1000x Uranium (same as current)
1000x Mech Parts (2/3 of current)
2000x Coolant (same as current)
5000x Oxygen (more than current)
37500x Liquid Ozone (FIVE times current)
37500x Heavy Water (over double current)
100,000x Helium Isotopes (more than current)

So I see a net gain in the Robotics production, the hardest PI product for me to manufacture, and a smaller gain in Mechanical parts, a somewhat difficult product to manufacture (due to planetary limits of noble metals on Barren planets)

But I'm totally screwed on Ice Products consumption here.

The fact that I have a faction tower no longer matters to me (the extra fuel bay size is worthless!). and the fact that I keep the lights turned off to save energy is also, no longer of any value. Way to go there!

I have been running this operation alone for over two years. I mine my own ice, make my own PI since it became possible, and earn my own charters.

I will make the following suggestions:

increase the blocks needed by a factor of ten, as other posters have suggested, and give the faction towers BACK their advantages in fuel consumption. Just make 40 blocks per run, using the same materials input, and then make the normal towers need 10,20,40 blocks per hour.

While you're at it, ALIGN the amount of Heavy Water and Liquid Ozone each mined block of Ice produces. The disparity between the two has ALWAYS been an issue with planning POS fueling. And there is also more need for Liquid Ozone anyway, as it's the fuel of jump bridges, etc. Make them both 50 for normal ice. You math scheme here just further insures the ridiculous shortage of O3 on the markets, and abuses solo miners/industrialists/POS operators like me. If you did that, I wouldn't worry too much about losing the fuel savings from having POS modules offline.

Other than what I've stated above, I like the change overall, it will be helpful, and it will make people's POS fueling a simpler process.

thanks CCP for thinking about POS operations. Keep iterating.

YAH! 50m3 PELLETS!

{I know, you're being silly.}

Imagine the size of rabbit you'd have to have to make a pellet that big.

Thanks for the clarification. It's a very welcome change. But when you overhaul the POS system, please consider adding more granularity to JB and POS access controls.