EVE General Discussion

See post 426 above.
No. The other security areas are there to provide a different kind of gameplay with different tools and different strategies. Highsec still needs to be a free-for-all (“free” as in speech, not beer) because of how it ties into the overall economy. It also needs to be made less safe so people learn to deal with the implications of this interconnectedness and shed the bad habits they've picked up from other games.
There are quite a few ways to slice that number, and you should not that it does not count players…
Don't be stupid. I need it, and I need your stuff as well. So hand it over.

I'm gay.

Ah gankers tears...Sweetest tears! You are right, it is a cold and harsh universe, and it is cold and harsh that you should not get insurance for a gank!

GJ CCP

Insurance for self-destruct is what gives mineral value. Stop being mean to the miners.

I'm not sure either. In game yesterday, I opened the star map and set the legend to show me "ships destroyed in the last hour." Now, I don't know if it was a glitch or something....but by a vast majority, the greatest amount of activity in that regard was in hi-sec empire space.

Someone else try that and post the results. 'Cause if I were to interpret that I would gather that hi sec is less safe than low or null sec. At least in that hour it was.

I made a long, eloquent post about this but it got deleted when I hit post.

In summary: insurance in eve largely makes no sense. It is thus an empty justification

You make it sound like suicide ganking rewards are somehow guaranteed; they aren't. You don't get their cargo and your insurance. You get your insurance and a RANDOM selection of their cargo/fitted modules, which every suicide ganking gets regularly screwed by. Insurance payouts are largely what make this a viable enterprise still by off-setting the "screwed by the loot drop once again" co-efficient. Without said screwed-ness mitigation the profitability and general viability is not just dramatically, but violently and lube-lessly reduced to a tiny, sobbing shadow of its former self

Bye-bye freighter ganking.

High sec takes another step away from "safer NOT safe" towards Carealot.

You say this isn't going to end suicide ganking and you're right; it is however another nail in it's slowly closing coffin lid; I give it a couple more years at most.

Saw it coming for a long time and can to some extent see and agree with payouts being a bit silly.

You are however massively colossal gaylords for implementing this change.


Now.....where did I put all those PLEX's; sounds like it's about time to get an officer fitted bs and prance merrily around high sec running missions and writing petitions about how unfair life is.

The lower security areas of the game promote PvP. From the time a pilot joins EVE, they hear about the lack of safety in lo-sec, null-sec, and w-space. In fact when a pilot jumps from hi-sec to lo-sec or into w-space they are given a warning of how Concord can't protect them there. Hi-Sec is all about "relative safety" -- meaning that there are consequences for unsanctioned aggression. Hi-Sec is also about learning how to play the game. The reality is that EVE is very complicated, and only a fool jumps into this realm of Internet Spaceships thinking he/she going to be anything but ineffective for the first 6-12 months of play.

Hi-Sec is not a free-for-all. ("free" as in speech, not beer). That is why we have the other "less secure" regions of space, and I use the term "less secure" very loosely. After all, it is a known fact that null-sec is relatively safe when everyone around you two and three regions over is blue. In fact it's quite a shame that null-sec is actually safer than lo-sec...but I digress.

As far as economy goes, well that's a very broad subject in the world of EVE. But, I'm sure botters, sanctum runners, ISK scammers, trading ISK for RL ISK, Plex farmers, etc...have more of an effect on the EVE economy than a few suicide gankers.

My favorite...



I love Internet tough guys...especially Internet Spaceship tough guys. Don't be that guy who picks on the 95 pound weakling. It's not good for your Battleclinic stats.

As long as there are people stupid enough to move high value cargo in weak tanked ships there will be ganks. This just moves the stupid cutoff mark.


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11441587

The fact that players are ganked even in high-sec proves me right.