Player Features and Ideas Discussion

See massive resists bonus of the T3 hulls...

Why would size sig radius have anything to do with RR.

Its a lock and "hit" persistent system.

Even better is you would jsut add more wood to the shield/armour debate fires. Shield would be op....the dual mse jaguar gets better reps from basi than an armour wolf does from an armour logi. Because you see....dual mse makes jag a fatter target.
Fill in any other MSE fitting frigate you desire here. Its also common to mix this with shield resists rigs (more sig) or CDFE (more sig again).


Or I am getting better carrier reps for my say rokh with LSE and CDFE fit if going buffer (BS sig radius made extra fat, I tend to like at least 1 resist rig as well....makes it even fattter) than an armour apoc is.

Don't see armour peeps being quiet about this. They have not let ASB rants die down after several patches. They are persistent folks lol.

Glad to see the ad hominem stuff coming out early on. I know plenty of counters to RR, but the point is that someone in a logi ship adds a far greater force multiplier to a fleet than someone in an EWAR ship, or a dps ship. Smaller ships need to be able to get involved more in fleet combat, one of the ways is to downgrade the effects of oversized RR mods on them. I'm sure everyone who has to experience the mindnumbing "gameplay" of high sec war decs would like that surprise RR to have less effect on the guys they're shooting.

As to the guy actually participating in the discussion, the idea, from a fluff perspective at least, if you're into that sort of thing, is that you're shooting a spread of nanites or whatever the **** is in shield reps at the target ship. The bigger the spread, the less actually hits them, sort of like a shotgun.

It's a fair point about the sig radius though, maybe there's another stat that would make things more equitable. You could perhaps tie it completely to hull size, i.e. frigates, dessies, cruisers, etc. all have different percentages of the rep amount that they could receive. Personally, I hope they redo the buffer rigs for both armor and shield completely and rethink their drawbacks, but if sig is here to stay, I'm sure we could find something else to base it off of. I'm more concerned with making oversized RR a less effective tactic.

Bring a full neut armageddon and a few celestis. Just because your gang is unprepared doesn't mean everyone else should be.

capital remote armor repair designed to repair a ship from 2-17km long

its dispersion pattern would be too large to properly focus on something the size of a frig or 50m.

what a great way to make T2 logi cruisers inferior to T1 logi cruisers...

Stacking penalty? WTF are you talking about? Reps don't have a stacking penalty. Or are you talking about something else?

There are plenty of ways to counter hostile logistics the problem is none of them are simple hard counters which is what unfortunatly quite a lot of people want rather than something that takes a bit of skill, forethought and effort.

Not a fan of measures that nerf people who have come prepared in favor of those trying to fly more adhoc fleets.

It's not dumbing the game down to require more thought from the attackers as well as the defenders. This isn't obsoleting T2 logi, they would still be the much preferred logistics ships for BC and BS gangs.

And I know that triage carriers can't be repped, but with the current meta, unless you have a stupid amount of neuts and dps, they don't really need any outside rep because they can regen enough cap to keep their local reps going.

Look, I understand that there are counters to RR now, my point is that they are insanely complex, and usually involve bringing a bigger blob. Instead of just coming in here with replies about how this will break the game as we know it, ask yourselves if you really like the way RR is used now and if it wouldn't be better if we made some changes to it.

No, repairing armor works with electricity
repairing shield works with light particles

Nantes are little robots has small has a blood cell, they are able to repair Electronics and Mechanics, they are nor made to repair armor, they can be used to boost up armor repairers by making them work faster and be able to be repaired at the same time if anything breaks down.

Armour repair works by hardening the armor actively sending in electricity.

On the other hand Shield transferred send in some sort of light/wave particles, they directly send more shielding.

The armor on your space ship is special, its meant to not break down, when it does everything collapses at once, its like a bridge, bridges are made with a slight round shape so that when it brakes it breaks all at once... it has no weakness's like a round submarine
The difference here is that your armor has this on the atomic level.