Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I tried to do a search on this through the forums, but the search featured borked out after one page of results. Also I can't access many game related pages seeing as how I'm on a work computer and most of those pages are blocked. Anyways, I know this is probably going to get some hate and all, but why not have a sleeper-tech based mining ship?

Basically have it work on the same subsystem-system as the tengu, loki, etc...but have all the subsystems be related to mining. Don't allow it to mine more than the hulk, or hell even the mack, but allow it to fit for survivability for low/null sec. I know a lot of people say that the Skiff is meant for mining in low/null but that's just not true anymore. Without the +2 warp strength, the tank merely makes you survive a few seconds longer, and mining in just a venture is painfully slow.

I don't know exactly how the Tech III thing works, I've unsubbed too many times to be in them yet and just finished up BC V for the patch, but I can imagine the warp strength could be a subsystem, that is about the only one I can think of off the top of my head.

I had found one thread I could access through a google search, but it was locked, otherwise I would have posted there. The OP posted about increasing yield, and of course that got shot down, increased yield decreases ore/mineral prices, yadda yadda yadda. However a few people suggested the subsystem/modular system. One in particular suggested making it just a base industrial ship, and adding subsystems to allow the use of strips.

I think this would increase the immersion of miners into low sec specifically, and would open up more targets for pirates that don't leave low at all, as well as increasing the presence of industrial corps in FW/Pirate space. I specifically state low-sec because in Null, from what I understand, you mostly have to keep an eye out for neuts/reds in systems and hit a safe/dock up when they pop up. I know that this is a simplified view of null mining, but I have yet to venture out there.

Let the flames bathe me and purify my dirty mining soul

I realize that a lot of miners aren't going to leave hi-sec no matter how accessible they make low/null. But I would, and I know at least a few miners who would. As it stands now low is about as close to untouched as you can get.

Hmmmm.

A T3 ORE ship that can both mine and defend itself. I think nobody would use it because "OMG OUR YIELD. MUST HAS THE PRECIOUS. GIVES IT TO US."

It would also force Miners to abandon the whole "We can't fight back" argument.

This would be great imagine the miner tears when they lose 4 days worth of Skill points after being suicide ganked in high sec.

Is there no one else!?

A good argument for the introduction of a Tech 3 mining ship.

Especially when the killmail shows multiple civilian shield boosters.

+1 for offensive mining subsystems. Want to alpha asteroids.

in the TMC interview, fozzy said he'd rather introduce a t3 industrial rather than a t3 battleship or frigate.

he also said he wants to look at exhumers again, too.

curiosity; does that fit work for ice too?

except you'd have to be at like 3k from your rock, which means you can't be aligned because you would be out of range in about 15 seconds. Your tank still sucks, and it won't help in low anyways when you get a scram and a disruptor thrown on you. Ignoring the fact that you have to get the barge out to low sec to begin with. Or you might build it out there I guess, but it will get blown up, and sooner rather than later.

A tech 3 industrial with subsystems that support hauling and mining would serve a few purposes, and it would bring the more risk oriented miners out to low sec. No one in their right mind will take that fit out to low for anything other than lulz. The ore is not profitable enough to make the risk worth it currently. I don't think CCP is planning on balancing the low sec ores, since they just did the null, and even if they did it probably still would not draw too many miners.

The current exhumers are just not meant for the kind of ganks that low would bring. Its not as simple as having a big tank with some stabs so you can survive till concord comes. We need some means of fending off attackers. I am not asking for a ship with an increased yield. I wouldn't want that, something with the yield of a skiff for low-sec survivability, or if the pilot wanted no survivability with the yield of the mack. The hulk should hold as the best yield in large, and safe, mining ops.

Plus the fact that about every other area of the game has had new ships introduced, and miners have been stuck with the same stuff for years now. I know this isn't the most compelling reason, but come on, give us something new to strive for.