Jita Park Speakers Corner

Bad part of that is youre supporting the CSM's efforts to blackmail CCP.
Theres no winning fo us here

Is it funny to anyone else that Mittens gets to troll freely? Is that a part of being CSM too?

It's simple really. You have too much power when your views/plans align with CCPs. You are powerless when your views/plans oppose CCP's.

This latest drama-llama shows that CCP is going to do whatever they like. Assent or dissent from the CSM or player population is not relevant.

They like having CSM available to approve changes, as it allows them to point and say "hey...we're doing what the players want." Even to the point of giving CSM members credit for the change--hence the claim of too much influence. When the CSM and CCP are in opposition, CCP simply shuts down/ignores them-- recent meeting minutes kerfuffle.

Personally, I think the CSM gives some people something to do with their otherwise meaningless lives. People with low self-esteem who seek e-fame in order to validate themselves. If it makes them feel better about themselves, then it's a good thing.

KB

Neither CCP nor the CSM is trying to nerf hisec, they are simply working on the principle that "taking risks should be rewarded." I think almost everyone in the game would agree that that is one of the guiding principles of EVE and should continue to be. It currently applies across the entire game, whether its taking the risk of undocking you officer fit mission running ship, and risking a suicide gank, speculating on the price of minerals, transporting goods through low sec, or bringing out your kickass pvp ship. The more you risk the bigger the reward is. Your officer fit mission ship rakes in more cash than a T2 fit would, the more money you dump into a commodity mean you stand to lose more or gain more, taking that shorter route through low sec means you can do more trips and make more money, but it puts your ship at risk. This principle exists both in hisec, lowsec and nullsec. But obviously it tends to place the rewards slanted towards nullsec because nullsec is where the risks are.

Goons and the other 0.0 alliances gain nothing by forcing you into nullsec, we need you in hisec to fuel our economies. But, I don't think it follows the above mentioned principle if hisec residents can make as much or more isk/hour than nullsec residents can with a vastly increased amount of risk.

Those numbers look very credible to me, even rather conservative.

It's not blackmail it is plainly laid out in Greed is Good and the leaked Hilmar email. They are not looking at anything but the datastream, to get them to listen to anything else the datastream must drop below their expectations and maintain it for an x period of time, that is only known to them.

Youre right its not blackmail, its holding the game hostage
and CCP cant be seen to negotiate or theyre screwed if they ever wanna take a stand again

Or just decrease what their current level of income is. I'm more for shifting the second part of your statement, increasing the "additional ship losses" part of hisec life. CCP seems to be in favor of just outright removing hisec monopolies such as T2 manufacturing, T2 research, certain kinds of ice, etc. Pick your poison.

There's an imbalance in the game and either way it is solved. Your empty threat doesn't really change that.

Its seems to me some people who think that nerfing High sec will get more people into null do not get it.

A lot of people in high sec chose not to go into null because they can not be bothered with the crap that comes with it.

Who wants to join an alliance were you have some 14 yr old with a god complex having emo rages every 30 seconds telling you what to do.. yeah that sounds like fun.

Yeah blob fest.. so exciting..

nerfing High sec wont make people go.. I must go to null, it will just make them say, feck it, can't be bothered I'm out of here.

Threat. An empty one.