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I do not know whether you can lose them this way.

1) Launch, afk 2 hours, probe times out and disappears
2) Launch probes, Disconnect or logoff while there in space and not come back (also a possibility).
3) Cyno/Jump bridge?

You all might want to try those situations out, the one being most likely is disconnecting/logoff.

#1 CCP answered. You get them back.

And then there is server entering downtime, or server crash. Once when I was just a few months into eve I had 4 probes out and hit recall. At the same time I had 4 probes being loaded into the launcher. Right in the middle the server crashed. All 8 sisters probes gone. And me being relatively new barely had 20 million ISK to rub together. I petitioned nicely and they were refunded.

Some more observations after spending the afternoon scanning on SiSi.

1. The activate checkbox is gone!. I used a lot this feature (specially when arranging 2 sets of probes with different sizes, formation) The checkbox was faster than the right click menu.

2. Why show "Range 0.5 AU" for every single probe? Make that text more compact (add a column header maybe?) or simply shorten it to "0.5 AU". This will give you room to bring back the disable checkbox.

3. Remove the useless expiration timer if probes are not going to expire anymore. This will give you more room to bring back the activate/disable checkbox. ... On a more serious note, just let the probes expire, don't recall them. If i wanted a more accessible space game I would still be playing Asteroids.

4. Dropping probes seem to draw the probes (in the solar system map) somewhere in system. Not at your ships location (which is where they actually are dropped)...not at the sun... Ideally it should match where they really are...next to your ship.


Scan strength seems a bit weak... I am using a Loki with the Emergent Locus subsystem (no scanning rigs). All minnie subsytem skills at level 5. Expanded probe launcher 2, combat probes and the 3 new scanning modules (all T1) and I can't scan down a few sites. The best I get is around 57%. I was under the impression all these changes were to make scanning easier.

I tried a 2.5 site in a WH and I could only get to 100% with all probes right on top of the signature at 0.5 au range. I am pretty sure I do not had this much trouble in TQ (only difference is I use a sisters launcher with sisters combat probes).

This is what I'm seeing after the latest update, 06:15 29/5:

All 8 probes launch at 32AU, centered around ship. After resizing, moving and scanning:
-Recall shows all probes as "Returning"
-They continue to "Return for a long time"
-Clicking on scan says "Communication with Probes failed"
-Relaunching 8 probes yields concentric 32AU pattern, not the one I made

Honestly, I like this better than any of the other previous iterations although i would like to know if the probes have returned to me.

I am glad this works so much better than before, thanks guys! If you could also leave all the scanned results as "active" so that I don't have to click on them to see them on the map, i'm happy

Oxi

I sent eight probes out, arranged them just so, did a scan cycle with them and recalled. They got stuck on "returning" but that's expected by now. I re-launched and the formation didn't save, instead launching all eight in one spot rather than the glorious formation I had created. I re-created it, scanned again, re-recalled and jumped one system over. As seen previously, the formation did indeed save this time and the probes were launched into it correctly. I scanned down a Relic site (the hacking containers didn't even have any good loot, nevermind what I actually got...) and recalled the probes.

Wouldn't you know it.. they launched in a single group right on top of each other. I recalled without scanning, jumped back to the first system and re-launched. This time, they were back in the correct formation and at the last AU size I had used.

I'm partially writing this here to try and figure out how to word it for the bug report, but if anyone else's experience matches this then it's probably helpful to mention so that others can say "That's exactly what I get too".

EDIT: Bug Report sent.

True. Seems the window does not refresh once the probes enter your cargo hold. Once they are in the hold, if you close and reopen the scanner window the probes are not longer listed.

I really appreciate that you added the columns back to the scanner (distance, ID, Scan Group, Group, Type, Signal strength) and that it is once again to sort signatures.

But could you please also add the two options to

• move the columns around and switch the order (for example I like to see the strength on the left next to the ID and I don't really care about the distance in most cases)
• to manually scale the size of the column, so that I can for example read the type completely

CCP just got to my bug report now.

Also, to launch all your probes in one spot just use the launcher button. It does still work, you know.

No, it doesn't. The probe formation still goes to the sun. The probes may physically be around your ship but as soon as you hit scan they all warp into their formation centered on the sun.

So activating the launcher directly should cause the initial formation to be around my ship, and not place the formation centered around the sun?

I'm not talking about the physical location of the probes, I mean the location of the probe formation as shown in the solar system map.