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Except in WH space we dont have the luxory of Local Chat alerting us when there is an intruder. We'll just get killed right away.

So much for paying attention to that minor detail CCP.

When I hop through a wormhole in my Helios, I first uncloak, pop a probe to scan the sig for the wh I came through, then move off and drop a few more probes while I warp to a planet to set a safe, go to the safe, pop the rest of my probes and begin scanning after I cloak. If I get caught at any point, or chased, I then have to recall all my probes before jumping back through the wh or I lose them. I might even get caught in another wh without probes and get screwed.

Some may do it another way. That's the great thing about EVE. There are many ways to do the same thing.

But in the new system it's hop through, hit button to deploy all probes, cloak up. Someone comes after you, you hop back through the wh, auto return probes and go on your merry way. All the same.

So tell me, which system is more of a challenge? Which one is keeping with the spirit of EVE?

Ehh....... I was truly excited about the coming changes, but I feel like you went too far.
It seems to me that in an effort of making scanning and exploration more "accessible" (nothing wrong with that) you overshot a bit and made it way too easy. Where's the challenge of exploration and scanning? Seems to me that it will become almost as boring as mining and missioning.

Oh well, we'll see when it comes out for real.

They are heavily invested in believing this shiny new thing is good. They have worked hard, and to a degree I like what I see. I also don't like what I see.

As an example of dumbing down, and how it is NOT crying wolf: Sandbox elements which could result in a failure state (for instance, running out of probes and getting stuck in a wormhole with no way to scan back to known space) are being removed. Part of the danger of Eve is that your own stupidity, ignorance, or inattention can get you stuck in a bad place with bad people doing bad things to you. Automatic recall of probes means this particular instance of failure state is now nigh impossible, unless someone accidentally jettisons all of their probes and loses the jetcan.

CCP, please consider that in a sandbox game, you need to have failure states for activities. It makes succeeding more rewarding.

While having the formation probes thing is kind of handy the whole auto return/reconnect side is a bit far. I remember when WH's first came out that there where many people who took the initiative to scanning out stranded people and helping them return home for a fee...the quick way or long way in different cases but it was a sense of consequence to mess up. With the ability for cov ops to instantly launch all probes at once they will be even closer to impossible to find and kill.

If people say "oh noes" I forgot my probes now I am lost to bad. Let them deal with it by asking for help in chat channels or leaving their ship behind and podding themselves would be really nice for some one who eventually finds a nice new toy. It is the same thing as if they forgot to bookmark their exits, I hope CCP doesn't turn around and have an auto BM feature for WH's because it is to much trouble for players to save it themselves.

I never had a problem with scanning down grav sites using probes. Others have pointed out that it will be a problem for mining security reasons which I agree with. If people are to lazy to use probes then they should miss out on the rewards that probe scanning brings to the true explorers.

The new Hacking and archeology sites look like they will be interesting on the plus side. Please do not dumb down EVE to the point where there is no challenge or sense of accomplishment.

I want a new module: XL Secure Trashcan.
To throw away all my scanning skills and experience for other fools to use for just being there.

This will be the first time I petition for finding a exit.

The barrier for entering gets lower, being good at it still takes the same skill.

LOL never been in W-space huh? Empire, Hi, Lo & Null are NOT all of EvE. A huge risk, and a ton of fun are to be had in holes when either you forget to load a launcher, or screw the pooch and let your probes expire... Adventures in Holes can be a very interesting time for all involved... But, you wouldn't know anything about that now would you? LOL

This, this and THIS! So much win...

Please allow us to save our own probe configuration.

Please fix it so the columns Distance, ID, Scan Group, Group, and Type can be adjusted in width instead of scaling with the whole scanner window.