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I won't fly with PL's AT team because I want to win with my own team - which I've been fielding since the first alliance tournament,

Also because PL was way too dominant in the alliance tournament when I originally joined them for some fun pew pew, woulda felt like a lame winning team joiner if I abandoned my old team to join theirs.



CCP had established a precedent of giving advance notice of when the cutoff date for membership was, this time they pulled the rug out from under everyone preparing for the tournament by not doing so.
There's nothing fair about it, so complaining about it is perfectly reasonable.

CCP should let us know before they make major changes to the tournament, hell maybe even discuss things with their players / CSM / participants.

I know that wasn't its purpose, simply pointing out that changing from having some warning as it's always been in the past over to "petition us and we might let you join your team" isn't particularly "fair" as the above poster was claiming.

All the cutoff did was discourage, not specifically prevent - which was a good thing for the competitiveness of the tournament, it meant people who were actually serious about the tournament could still do their thing if they were willing to make the sacrifice of their time in forming teams like Seldarine's , DHB Wildcat's and basically helping every team that isn't like PL or GoonSwarm and might actually need to do some moving around to be capable of fielding a competitive team.

As for your sympathy wasn't aware you had any for anyone ever so that's not saying much ;O

Interesting statement. So what defines the home alliance? Lets take sports and the olympic look even further here.

Cristiano Renaldo - famous soccer player (yes im american) who plays for "Spanish" club Real Madrid, but is the captain of the portuguese national team. Meaning he lives and plays most of his soccer in spain with a spanish team, but represents portugul in the olympics and world cup.

In america - we have many cuban born players that live and play baseball in america their entire adult lives, but every 4 years represent (or used to before the olympics dropped baseball) Cuba in the olympics.

Many European born Basketball players (manu ginobli - argentina, Steve Nash - born in south africa, claims Canada as home country but lives in the US.)

I could go on for literrally pages upon poorly spelled pages. However the point is, that in your example people are allowed to live and work in another country other than the one they claim as their home.

Eve example coming to mind - Tyrrax Thorrk, claims Dystopia as home alliance, lives with PL. According to your Olympic example, this is acceptable.

In fact if you want to put limitations on alliances and they tournament then do it on the alliances and not the players.

I hope you'll realize that the best course of action is to just set a date a few days from now and say you must be in the alliance by then. Then after this alliance touranment you can put strict measures upon the alliances. Just give some warning, please.

Unsurprisingly got a F U petition reply just now from CCP

hmmmmmmm does make you scratch your head, but i wouldnt go that far as abuse of power. GL to everyone participating. I guess Im not worthy enough. Too bad, since tournaments are the only small gang warfare left in this game.

Um, Nulli Secunda was on the roster.

Locking the alliances is only a good thing, and has been said before over and over exceptions will be made for extreme circumstances. The fact of the matter is, that for every team that can't play, like PLs B and C team, or goons entering 2 teams, is that leave a spot for another smaller alliance to pick up the spot and have a chance to shine.

There is talk about people who only play EVE to participate in the alliance tournament. The thing is that they form up their own alliance at the last second in order to compete. I know a lot of reference has been made to the Olympics, but this would be on par with starting your own country in order to compete. You must understand that the alliance tournament is not for these individuals, but for alliance based teams. These members need to stick with the alliance that they already are in, and help them become a compete team instead of running off to make a new alliance.

i applaud CCP, for these new rules. It will allow a lot of new blood into the tournament, a lot of teams that could rise up and surprise us, a lot more chances for the small alliances to form and compete. While their are a lot of tears about not being able to see your favorite pilots form up on one team and crushing everyone else, only good can come from this.

P.S. I actually think CCP should have gone back a few weeks or maybe even a month ago that you had to be in alliance in order to compete on a team.

Hey guys, we've now responded to the petitions we received over the past few weeks. I understand some of you will be unhappy with our decisions, and to be completely honest in many cases we felt terrible having to say no to people who care deeply about the tournament. However we do believe that this rule will lead to the best tournament over time and will hopefully be (along with vastly improved communication) part of the changes that will prevent the even more crushing events during the leadup to the last tournament that none of us want to see happen again.

In virtually all cases where we have said yes to requests for exceptions so far, the petitioners have all had a very similar set of circumstances, so we wanted to put those criteria here to show people a bit of the thought process that went into the decisions so far:

The character in question was not in any alliance at the time of the cutoff on May 15th.

The petitioning player wishes to rejoin the alliance that the character was most recently a member of.

The character in question has spent a significant amount of time in this alliance over the past year.

We have not so far been granting exceptions for corporations or players who were members of alliances on the 15th, as they are encouraged to compete with that alliance.

Again, we're extremely sorry to those players whose petitions we have had to say no to, and we hope that as many of you as possible will be able to participate in EVE tournaments either in ATXI with your current alliances or in the next New Eden Open with an alliance-independent team.

Huh.. I totally forgot about the commentator thing..

Oh well..

lol so i can rejoin my home alliance right after the tourney flying for Suddenly Spaceships? Lol isnt that what you are eliminating here? No I think not, like I said I in my petition Suddenly blued everything in sight. They are not my alliance, Anyways gl with the tourney. I sincerely hope you get enough teams for a full 64 team tourney. I hope NEO was a fluke in that reguard. Many of these smaller alliances that do not have the moon income simply cannot afford to participate competetively. I know all of the teams I participated in were funded by 4 guys, and I know of at least 20 teams that were the same way, all of which will not be participating.

It will be interesting to see how this turns out. Its either going to be the best tourney ever with a wide open field. Or its literally going to be 5 teams steamrolling everyone with no competition until the semis, and the finals. Like I said, it will be very interesting to see how this turns out. 8)

Your petition was responded to on 2013.05.22 14:03:00 by CCP Gargant.