Issues, Workarounds & Localization

All depends on your choice of 'Method' used when logging in multiple characters.

My own personal choice is to select those needed for a list of over forty 'Corp works a *****' then using the 'ExE' open the required numbers of clients, fill in the details and hit connect on each screen,,Pre Selection method I believe some have called it, this allows me to log in 10 or so clients....without the background clutter of multiple log in screens currently reported in these forums, just leaves me with a neat row of ' Evefile.exe *32 ' equaling the number of clients I have running and nothing more.

Others appear to be happy to trudge through the current log on screen process and accept the crud that goes with it including the eyesore of the log in screen.

My guess would be the purist players will go for the former method every time when using large numbers of characters simply for the ease of use.

Comments heard when discussing this mess in Corp and Alliance often revolve around the fact that it is felt the log in process currently offered is slow tedious and unduly effected by intrusive advertising which is not why they come to play EVE, commercial considerations aside it should also be noted that when asked what sort of time they spend reading EVE forums and more interestingly when they do this reveals they actually do spend a lot of time there, but normally when log into the game and either engaged in some mundane activity or sitting in stations were they have all the other benefits that come with being logged in to hand, and not when logging into the game.

Oh sorry for the misunderstanding. I thought you meant you were wondering if my method was strange. I was just saying I couldn't imagine how using the product as intended might be an odd way of doing it My bad.

What kind of comment are you looking for?

On the first point, you are absolutely correct. I realize that CCP cannot test every type of user installation in house, but basics like Non-Admin user problems based on storing data in the program files directory (against Microsoft's published development guidelines) and zombie launcher processes should have been easily found by CCP in house and corrected before release.
For the second point, CCP has pages of feedback from SiSi testing of this new launcher from real world users. Several of the bugs currently in the Tranquility launcher were posted, and CCP ignored them. CCP released the launcher anyway, and these same bugs are now reported in these feedback threads. All the real world feedback in the universe is useless if the developers choose to ignore it.

I can't make that statement, because it wouldn't be true. At some undetermined point in the future it will be removed. I can however restate what I've already posted and say that it won't go away until the functionality you're making use of and desire is available in the EVE Launcher.

Perhaps a " yes we think this is a good idea / crap idea / not misuse of code according to eula ????
(At least that is the answer i personaly hope to see on this question)


After all, you aked your community for help, now you got it, how do you deal with it? " suprise??"

the functionality was in the old launcher/patcher. SSO and your whole concept behind it will continue to break it for multiaccount holders.

I don't want a single account name and password for all my accounts - its less secure
I don't want some token thing to add an extra step to logging in.
i dont want 2 programs running on my pc just so i can get 1 eve client to work
I don't care about your voice coms and facebook pages, twitch tv and other such waste of time

I just want to get to each account individually with the 3 steps(or less) I currently use. like I have done for the bulk of the last 8 years ive played.
its not about change, meh change isn't an issue UNLESS its a loss of functionality i.e. the current launcher

if all your trying to achive is a way of linking accounts together so you can track them. let me do that via account managment

When I hear SSO I think yay I can sign into a master account interface select the computer template I am logging into and EVE will launch with the same setup I had when I closed it down. Sounds like great use of the CREST interface to me.

I kinda get why they are using the lancher to promote Twitch for example.

Lately EVE has made it to the frontpage of the twitch games page, intitally thru the efforts of streamers like Mad_ani and Mittens etc, and it seems like CCP has taken note of this.
Alot of potential customers will randomly click on frontpage streams of Twitch looking for entertainment. A % of these will
sign up for a trial and possibly become paying customers.
I get that part.

But making the CURRENT userbase suffer for a promotional tool (in part) isnt a way to go forward. Ive been a twitch viewer long time before CCP took notice of it, and there is absolutly nothing on the launcher that I even have the slightest intrest of.

I know you have said repeatedly you will remove the EXEFILE gamestart feature, but only when customers are satisfied with the new launcher.
Based on what I see from the launcher functionality, I have a hard time seeing you will ever reach that level.
I hope Im wrong in that assumption.

Im betting at one point when forum has quieted down somewhat you take that as a "everything is ok" sign and just goes
ahead with the final step (no more exefile start).

With the inevitable threadnaughts.

Just give me back the pre-launcher days option back of open EVE and login on 1 of my remembered accounts!
Old version of the Launcher was better than this new one, but is still pointless!

I want to play EvE-Online,
not change user name, enter password, accept EULA, launch game
- Everytime I want to log 1 (or more) of my 4 accounts on!!!

It should be Choose Account (or add & remember a new one) , enter password, PLAY (EULA only if you update it & ONCE per client (not account))

How HARD is it to understand that I pay to play, not 'fart about' with a launcher???


And if this annoys the marketing machine, then they know how I feel!