Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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Fozzie, please explain to us, why you want to nerf titans again.

These changes also affect titans, which are unable to shoot battleships, so your explanation doesn't explain the tracking nerf. If it is fozzie's intention to make blapping harder he should answer in the thread and say so.

Are you saying this will be the rise of the sig tanking nano moros? =O

When will tech 2 weapons be added to the Extra Large weapons class?

I like this change Tbh. Would rather more buffs to bring other dreads in line and the phoenix is still broken. The moros still tracks extremely well (moros vs nag either can have better tracking depending on fit) and it still does the most dps at 30km.

All dreads bar phoenix can still blap Bs's with webs (the rev could do it before and its tracking is still slightly less than post need nag / moros albeit you will most likely no longer be able to blap unwebbed bs's at ~50km like you could before which was imbalanced.

Most of the folks in this thread are most likely either not dread pilots or folks who just trained the moros last year because it was the flavour of the month.

Im a nag pilot fyi and I flew them before they where "cool" so im still happy with what I have

Fozzie showed during streaming the difference between programming and playing a game.
No way he'll read this forum.
CCP Dev don't even know how's EVE gameplay.

I dont understand all these nerfs and fixes. Shouldn't the idea be that every class of ships should have the same efficiency against the lowers, equal and higher classes as the others ? i.e. dreads should be as effective against battleships as battleships are against cruisers, cruisers against frigs and supercapitals against capitals.

I cannot stop feeling like the last couple years all the changes were directed to favor large alliances using fleets with big numbers of smaller ships.

You're getting confused between the tower's shield and its force field.

I dunno, I see the heirarchy between classes as less of BIG>Medium>small, but rather as each class has a larger ship that counters base class, but due to its size is more vulnerable to the next ship class. So more of a "Battleship>Battlecruiser>Cruiser>Destroyer>Frigate" sort of scenario. I find a Frigate or two can take down a cruiser just fine because the cruiser can't track them well, with exceptions that are more effective at some things than others, of course (SFI, RLM Caracal).

Perhaps if there were a stepping stone between Battleships and Capitals that was perhaps 800m sig radius and met mid way for speed and agility (so at a snails pace, but not continental drift), then it would make sense for Dreads to be a hard counter to that.

But to simply outclass an entire "tier" of ships? I don't think that's quite fair.



Perhaps if it's only supposed to be for bashing structures and stationary capitals, they should bring back the old tracking penalty when sieged, but make it even larger. Maybe an 80% tracking penalty, but a 60% range increase when sieged? Would that make you happy? You'd be able to shoot a POS through the bubble from in optimal with Antimatter, after all, there's no such thing as other types of ammo.

By the way, this picture was linked earilier in the thread by Deerin here. It shows the changes in Moros damage post patch. The lime green line is the Old Moros, the red line is the New Moros. At 35km you're dealing more damage than the old Moros with AM. Lets not even get into the discussion about how you can change to other types of ammo to still outdamage the other dreads, but at even larger ranges.

Also, since I doubt you always have all your Moros humping the bubble when POS smashing, and it can be assumed you're at around 35km from the POS, you're really not losing any DPS, and any range over that is where you begin to outdamage the old Moros.