Issues, Workarounds & Localization

It's FUNDAMENTAL that there's a mechanism to store per computer unique settings.

Feasibility: you can do it, because you already fingerprint the clients and you can use it as "hash code" / index to look up for sets of settings.

Why do it: because many, MANY of us have these super common use cases:

Use case 1:

Computer at home, computer at work / school / relatives.

Use case 2:

Multiple computers at home and the same accounts sometimes need to run on one computer, other times on another(s).



Typically, whereas a majority will only play 1-2 accounts on the same computer forever, many multi-accounters (read: those who pay CCP more) have a variety of computers to run EvE on.

I have 5 computers at home, all with EvE installed. I also have one notebook at the office to play EvE during lunch break (here they last hours ) and a netbook for the same task.

At home I may play 4 clients on my main rig (very powerful) at high graphics settings for "top level" EvE game play but also to do refresh Planetary Interaction on 106 planets (one hundred six) and this is best done in a computer that is fast and detailed graphics.

Some days I will play 2 clients on that computer and 4 on another.

Other days I need to play 1 account (say PvE / PVP) + 1 Orca booster character and on another computer 2 mining alts and on another computer another 2-3.

Other days I need to trade the EvE markets and I fire up the clients on less power expensive laptops maybe while doing PvE on the powerful computer and mining on less powerful computers.

Other days I play another MMO plus Orca booster on main computer and miners on laptops or another less powerful computer.


In any case, limit my freedom once again by removing many years old intelligent and versatile features and my 6 subs will be immediately gone. As obvious consequence I'll also have to abandon my open source EvE softwares and offcial EvE fan website.

It's not a treat or anything, it'll be just an obvious consequence at having been made impossible to play EvE in a moving and shifting world we live in.

In fact I can't configure a one-size-fits-all when one computer is a MONSTER, another is average, a powerful notebook has its different screen size, transparencies etc. etc, the nebook obviously has baseline settings tuned for memory saving and performance.



Edit:

If you will ignore this unexpected users need (we see you missed this possibility and it's worrysome to see so) then get ready for a beating and sh!tstorm that WILL make these days threadnoughs look sweet and educate in comparison.

MANY advanced users including many null sec players with lots of accounts are in my same situation.

I see somehow you guys did not "get" this and this WILL cost a lot to implement since it appears you had no plans to address multi-config. But ignoring it and blindly going ahead will.... ehm.... put you in a situation I don't envy the least. Really. Really.

Too bad the launcher still isn't working for me (Linux user, running under WINE) and that even following the instructions for not losing your settings, I ended up losing all of my settings.

Not wanting to give a "it doesn't work" complaint, my problem is that the launcher does not allow me to launch the game:

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5185/eveq.png

If we can't actually use the launcher to access those sites then what is the point of the SSO session? Perhaps there is something I do not understand:

1. I use the launcher to log in an account.
2. I click the Account Management link at the top of the launcher.
3. Chrome opens the page but I am not logged in.

Where is the benefit of SSO in this context? Why do I need to click Play after logging in if there is nothing I can actually do apart from Play anyway? Just another annoying click...

Edit: and why does the client still authenticate? You log into your account in the launcher, you log into your account in the client, you log into your character in the client. There is an easier way.

I was going to write something, but the other responses to both of your quotes in this post do a far better job.

Atropos...i really can't agree with your logic here.

You're saying that: since CCP has decided to move to a SSO mechanism that is independent from the "old" method of logging in, the old visually striking immersive game login is irrelevant? That's rather closed minded (however not very surprising) and somewhat dismissive sadly.

I can't see why CCP can't figure out how to build that much desired login/SSO functionality INTO the EVE client over multiple instances instead of using that goofy launcher.

*****How about a method of combining/linking multiple characters/accounts into a SSO interface so that you can login to any of the characters/accounts from a single sign on? *****
You know, similar to what Microsoft did with the Messaging program's functionality communicating over facebook, google+, etc... in Windows 8. Now that would make me happy as heck!!!!!!!!!!

ok this is not good my EVE Online Launcher will not load eve.exe will not load eve.exe (Safe Mode) will not load . trys to load but does not work . no errors at all come up just does not work.

i was able to play with ExeFile.exe but now it goes it said: ready to update status: Incompatible (Build) so now i can even play a game that i pay for.


what do i do i am losing time and money.

@ CCP Atropos: How many current players are even interested in SSO as described in the Dev Blogs?

I am, and I think many other players are, interested in playing the game.

Intrusive advertising and the ability to move to other CCP websites without loging in have noting to do with the game.

I'm sure that there are a few players who want more bells and whistles but I AM NOT one of them.

This shouldn't happen. The EVE Launcher will try to save the settings to a yaml file located in it's cache folder, which is inside the launcher folder in your EVE installation.

If there's a permission issue (it can't save to Program Files for example) I would have expected that to have appeared to you at some point. In the case that it can't load any settings (probably because it can't save any in the first place) it will load the default settings, which include the log sending being enabled option.

If you're able either file a bug report, and we can work on fixing this or copy the logs to pastebin where we can look at them. This very much isn't how it should work, and I would really appreciate the bug report and logs.

Repost from the old thread:

I use multiple copies of the client via a file system fork.

On the old launcher, each fork kept a separate account history, so each desktop shortcut would default to a specific user account. The new one lists the same account at all times.

The very strange part is each fork still opens on its assigned monitor correctly. So it is aware of the forks. This is very strange behavior.

If they remove this within the next 3 months I'm dropping accounts. This was the only back up for a release disaster... given the inability to fully test the architecture in the RL - they need all the backup plans they can muster