Test Server Feedback

The probes are much easier to control and the sizing of probes doesn't seem to bug like the current version where sizing the group only resizes a single probe after the scan button was pressed. Overall the new probe control is much simpler.

However, I'm accustomed to using 6 probes because the 7th probe in the middle makes the object of scanning difficult to see.
Will it be possible to launch 6 probes or have a custom probe configuration when launching probes? When I have less than 7 probes in the launcher the probe formation buttons don't work.

Another problem I saw while in wspace, my 100% results were not saving, and I would lose them after I hit scan again. But in kspace the results 100% were saving.

Will it be possible to sort the results window to see the 100% results at the bottom?

I was using the Deep Space probes for this reason
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/dsp/wormhole.html

Thanks for making the features available on the test server.

+1

Thoughts on how to make the new system work.
Leave our skills alone!!
Set it up so that you can launch a single probe still, and add a option in the scanner window to set the number of probes you want in your auto formation.
Leave the mystery when traveling into a new system, being given all the information right up front kills the mystery of exploration, I will say that Space Anomalies are a fine thing to see though upon entering a system.
Standardize the size of probes and flag combat probes to only load into the Expanded Probe Launcher.
Let us keep out DSP.
Give us back the count down timer for scan results.
Leave Our Skills Alone!!!

I have removed a couple of non-constructive posts.

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The 100% results in wspace don't save in the history

The Sig ID HGU-520 scanned to 100%
http://i.imgur.com/MOXwudd.jpg

The next scan shows HGU-520 result not saved
http://i.imgur.com/V3UBc3g.jpg

Is this working as intended? In a system with 10+ sigs how do we keep track of what we have scanned to 100%?

After playing with probing a bit on Sisi I'm happy with 90% of it.

The 10% I'm unsure about:

The UI improvements are great, but they're a double edged sword. With the ability to launch 7 probes, instantly arraign them for optimal scanning, and very quickly resize them, combat scanning is MUCH much faster than it was. With my lvl 4 skills I was able to skip multiple probe distance settings even while scanning down abandoned fighters. This means safe spots are going to be significantly less safe even with a non-covops cloak now especially for slow warping ships like capitals/supers. And ratters are going to have to be checking local even more often to have some measure of safety.

In the initial probe formation the bubbles don't overlap at all, which means that even on the largest area setting they're going to be missing parts of space and therefore potentially some signatures.


Recommendation:

Make the probe launcher drop all the probes at the END of its cycle, and make the cycle take a bit longer. Instant probing is too fast to be balanced. This also returns the brief scanning ship vulnerability window that they currently have while uncloaking to drop probes.

Give probes some moderate overlap in their 2d grid pattern formation so that they aren't missing large swaths of on-celestial-plane space.

Just allow the ability to launch probes individually in the way it has always been, and much of the issues people have would be resolved.

E: For bonus points, modify the "predefined" cluster launches to user controlled. Player organizes probes in certain fashion, highlights probes, right-click "Save Formation", and allow THE PLAYER to do presets when it comes to probes.

I actually like getting some automatic results. Brings some realism to the game where you do have some automated systems.

I would say make it optional to auto-show results.

alot of good points are already made against the removal of deep space probes.

One DSP at 256au provides alot of intel. ships, POS and mods, drones, cosmic sigs with readable percentages. a great deal of intel. currently you have not replaced this intel gathering ability with anything. i would like to know if the removal of DSP is because you (CCP) feel this quick intel gathering is something you want removed from the game? or was the removal of this intel gathering technique an oversight because you were very focused on PVE probing only?

Expanding the directional scanner range to 256au would make the removal of Deep Space Probes easier to digest. but still i do hope you reconsider the removal of DSP and there is a chance they are left in the game.


i feel that all you really needed to do to buff probing was to allow a user defined launch pattern of up to 8 probes defined in that pattern (and allow the launching of 1 probe by holding shift). that simple change would have been awesome.

can you confirm whether or not distance not showing up anymore for combat probing is intentional?

edit: bear in mind this is the only way to identify where you're about to warp your fleet, and is a massive change for all fleet warfare