EVE General Discussion

I don't know. The desire to see the way I play the game changed seems to mean a hatred towards how I play the game.

So you don't care how I feel, but you just feel strongly about what I do and it makes you get all mad and run to the forums saying "I don't like how the game is played this way! Waaah! Change it! Or else!"

Seriously, if you didn't care, why are you replying to me? Seems that you do.

Should I lick you face to get a gulp of those tasty tears of your demanding the game to be changed to suit yoru personal viewpoints?

i find myself playing "solo" more lately. though i'm never really alone because i am constantly talking in channels or sometimes comms and getting interaction that way.

but i play solo a lot because i do a lot of exploration and stuff....and don't like to share my isk making sites.

It's not the same. People respond to the rules and incentives they are faced with, and as long as they're playing within the rules of the game, how they respond to those rules and incetives is totally up to them. That doesn't mean that the rules and incentives with which we all are faced, including myself, cannot be improved from my perspective. If my perspective comes at the cost of how someone else chooses to respond, too bad for them. I still care as little about how they play as I did before, which is nothing.

Unless you have something new to add this is my last response, as I feel I've made myself more than clear.

Absolutely. I care how the rules and incentives affect me, which other players may be the vessel for, but I don't begrudge the players because they are merely playing the game as I am, which is as best suits them. Therefore, I do not care how others play.

Not complicated.

Very easily. How someone plays and issues with game rules are seperate things.

I don't know of one person who cares that I do incursions or faciton warfare (no one ever snet me a mail saying "yo dude, FW missioning is all "alternative lifestyle" and you shouldn't do it).

They (and I) DID care what the former inbalances those things had did to the game, which is why they got nerfed (bad for me personally,good for the game in general). Just because i liked to farm FW LP doesn't mean that was good for the game.

Some people are so bloody self centered that they can't imagine a situation that is good for them could need nerfing. CCP is about to nerf my beloved Forsaken Hubs in oddessy, and eventualy they are gonna nerf my even more beloved Machariel (they've already said so). I don't LIKE it, but I accept it as just the way it has to be.

Many many people couldn't imagine saying what I just typed lol.

I'm fairly sure people can tell when your sole purpose for dropping :tenbux: and posting on SA is to join Goons. I highly doubt they take kindly to such behavior.

Oh wow, you're so desperate to play the victim card that reading comprehension goes straight out the window.

Actually, English might not be your first language so I can see where you might have trouble there. In any case, never stop trying to reap nonexistent tears

Well played, good troll etc.etc. I fell for it.

Edit: Back on topic, I agree with posters above in that I don't think many people have problems with Solo Players as such. I'll pull a number out of my arse and say that at some point or another, almost 100% of the players in this game have logged on, done something solo for a bit and logged back off with almost minimal interaction with anyone else.

More people seem to take issue with the fact that some self-proclaimed 'solo players' will:
1. ***** and moan when other people interact with them whether its the violent or non-violent type. This includes the self-victimization card of "It's a sandbox, I should be allowed to play the way I want, no one should be able to interfere with the way I do it" For an example, see the quoted poster.

I would argue that everyone has a right to play the way the want, and should be prepared to defend their way of life should someone set on disrupting it come into their life.

2. Complain that CCP is leaving them out in the cold with X change or X expansion.

I'd argue that the rewards for group play should be greater than solo play. Not to say that solo content should be nerfed to the point that it's not worth running. However, this comes down to entitlement issues that many players will have, which isn't limited to just carebears. Often, players are seen requesting a buff to this or that, and after some balancing by CCP seem happy for a while, until they notice that other people are making more money/isk/rewards. And so the cycle continues.

3. Claim to 'leave if CCP doesn't do X'
You often see players, especially type 2 above, complain and moan that they will leave the game for whatever reason. However, these players generally do not follow through on their so-called 'threats'. All these posts serve to do are to make them look silly.

tl;dr Do what you want, just stop bitching about it if things don't go your way.

Oh I hear you. Nature of the beast. I just think time is a factor and some current content has gotten dusty. It's time for the "Rinse" part of the cycle. I believe there does need to be a cycle of PVE iteration and refreshing. It would be healthy for the game. It need not even be every year. I think what we're feeling now is the pressure (or enui) from that dust buildup.



Yeah EVE is real heheh. It keeps getting better and better.

You should be able to wardec NPC corps and pursue wartargets into systems that have security level equal to or lesser than your corp's standings with that NPC corp. Of course your corp then loses standings with the NPC corp, and the rate of that can be carefully set by CCP. Adds a whole new huge dimension into high sec PVP! What do you guys think?

(Oh and NPC corp members could know what systems they're safe in just by checking your corp's standings with theirs! AND it could serve as a great way to give noobs an urgent reason to join a player corp. OMG somebody from CCP please read this!)

I think there is a clear distinction that needs to be made here. Playing solo in a multiplayer game can mean two things;

1) Playing on your own with other people around that can affect your game play

2) Playing on your own with no other people around or only people that cannot affect your game play.

For EVE, I think most people refer to solo-play as "1" above. However, sometimes people bring up discussions and ideas that fall more into the "2" category above and it is these people that are often told "this is a multiplayer game".

'Multiplayer' does not mean you have to play with other players but it does not necessarily mean you can play the game devoid of their presence and affects.