EVE General Discussion

Everyone in eve should be considered a solo player, from one man corps to big alliance bosses, after all its all personal ego....

Simply put, the meta games and the lack of trust it engenders along with the multiple accounts its evident we are all out just for our selves.

Huge scams, corp rip offs, disbanding BoB, all solo players that kicked the others.

Most of those people who say "this is a multiplayer game go back to WoW" are the ones who tend to take glee in ganking, scamming, etc. and exhibit an inability to get over themselves.


The rest of the players, regardless of what the do, do whatever they want, and don't care what anybody else does. They might play in groups, they might play solo, they probably do both..

Most important of all, they don't sit there saying "Eve is...." and then try to adhere to it like some kind of religion.

Self-interest and not giving a rats ass what anybody thinks - that's a sandbox. That's also an exercise in liberty.

Sometimes I suspect that the "Eve is... and therefore all must adhere to it" crowd are the kids who grew up watching too many political speeches where they were sold on the virtues of seeking out causes "greater than themselves". Well, whatever one's opinion on any cause, I doubt a video game is one of them.

It's not broken. It's just old and tired. There are two kinds of iteration, maintenance and new stuff. Everything up to now since Apocrypha, other than Incursions, has been maintenance. That's important and those changes have been great. Odyssey is clearly going to add some new content to exploration. Hopefully it's more than just the model of the ancient colony ships they showed at Fanfest. If they think just that plus pinata mechanics is going to instill " a sense of wonder" in us they've got another thing coming.

You're wrong. EVE PVE is not fine. Anything in an MMORPG that has only received maintenance but precious little new stuff for this many years is far from just fine.

EvE Online is an old school sandbox mmo-rpg game, not a kindergarten themepark game. In EvE, players are the content. It makes no sense to spend CCP precious time making worthless themepark stuff.

What CCP should do is constantly iterate and improve the existing systems (like in the last 3 expansions) and intruduce new sandbox features (Odyssey).

I don't think in black and white like you. I see a grey area where sci fi lovers like myself can get some content while the sandbox continues to roll on. I can participate fully in the sandbox while taking time on the side to enjoy some content that immerses me in the world in a different way. And make some ISK while I'm at it, which I need to do anyway. If CCP is lacking in "precious time" to make this happen, then...well I hope they heed voices like mine and hire the right people.

You can be as disrespectful as you like but more PVE content would improve EVE for a lot of us. And I'm talking about people who love EVE and want to invest in it and want to be active in player interaction and emergent content.

The general impression I came away from Fanfest with was that CCP want to make more PvE content... but they want it to be more geared towards group play... and by that I mean; you can still run content solo, you just won't be very efficient doing it by yourself (or multiboxing).

And as far as the state of PvE is concerned Angang Ostus... the problem with creating whole new PvE content that people can run by themselves is that it will be mapped out and become repetitive in the space of 6 months or less. Then the DEVs are back at square one. Rinse and repeat.

The best content we have got PvE-wise (in my opinion) is where the DEVs gave us tools and a situation that cannot be solo'ed by a single player (not without very significant effort and/or risk at least).

Wormholes are a good example of this. C1s to C3s can be solo'd... it's hard and risky but doable. Beyond that you NEED people... because if the Sleepers don't rip you a new one then someone residing or invading it will.
Incursions... pure group content. When they first came out people whinged and bitched because they lost their pimp fit Rattlesnakes and CNRs screaming "I shouldn't be forced to work with others." A year later it's now "old and tired" PvE... but wait... it's still chugging and still causing drama... because the players themselves are causing it... because the site forces them to interact.

Whether some like it or not... content that encourages group interaction and conflict is the way this game is going to evolve... simply because it's more future proof than anything else. It's also FAR more entertaining.

Go nuts, nobody actually cares what you DO; we just care when you cry on the forums as the box you put yourself in gets smaller and smaller.

No matter how many times you say it Varius, it keeps on being true (truth does that lol) .

I jsut sometimes feel sorry for people, namely the people who somehow need to think "it's all about me". It drives me a little crazy when someone pulls out that "you must want me to play differently" BS. I mean seriously, what does that say about a person that they could actually feel that way?

I don't know. I've seen a lot of mad players demand that NPC corps be nerfed. I don't care either way. I'm only one step away from running everything in a one man corp. But many of you seem like you want me to join an alliance and kowtow to the powers that be. Its as if there is a group of players are just incensed at the fact player plays solo.

As long as you say "I don't care about NPC corps and solo players" then we're all cool. Its just that I have seen the opposite on many occasions. As long as playing solo is viable, I'll keep playing. Who knows, I might have a seperate account with a SA forum account just waiting for the 3 months so I can get in.

So to borrow from my sig... So you hate the way I play and it makes you cry like a baby?

I suppose I should enjoy your tears while it lasts.