EVE General Discussion

lol, exactly the same happened to me when i was new, except that i was flying a rupture.



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To the OP - I kinda feel strongly about this, and I know some of this will come out wrong but I wear my heart on my sleeve :) - I like solo play and the game very nicely caters for everything I want to do. I do otherwise band together with friends and we have a great deal of fun running level 3 and 4 PVE missions. Actually high sec for us is the perfect place to be, and none of us are interested in direct PvP - as it just doesn't appeal at all. It's just the way we are, a reflection of what we're like as people in the real world.

I do hear a lot of mention to 'emergent story'. Actually emergent story is in the eye of the beholder. For me what happens in <0.5 is inconsequential, whatever happens "out there" really is irrelevant, we're a self sustaining unit can mine and manufacture our own ships and fittings. EvE caters perfectly for it, in fact I'll go as far as to say it almost feels 'designed' for this kind of self sufficient nomadic life style. lol I can almost feel the temperature rise as I typed that! Please don't cross-examine :)

We're exploring now the possibility of setting up in a wormhole, certainly with new up and coming changes it does sound interesting; but we're kinda tangled of going against our philosophy of stepping out of high sec safety for the probable fact that someone will attack our stuff whilst we're not in game and waste the countless amount of time we pour into the 'adventure'. I work in the city, and cannot guarantee I'll get home before midnight sometimes - the thought of folks playing 24/7 and 'killing' our stuff whilst at work or away on business just feels like a major achilles heel.

I digress, in any case, in our own little metagame of eve we have 'emergent story' flooding out in waves, but interesting others think we add no value. I guess it's because the risk averse players like to stick to places of safety, and in my mind 100% nothing wrong with that.. I do find that those that like to PVP and prey on others are just sitting in the middle of their "spider webs" waiting hours for that odd industrial to stray through, or whatever.. I personally think they HATE it because IT IS possible to remain in high sec 100% of the time and have an infinite amount of fun without losing your stuff in otherwise pointless ganks or NULL SEC blobs. I does feel like there's a campaign to stranglehold high sec more and more to force risk averse out and into the spider webs to appease the <0.5 bored.

There we go! A guided tour of my thoughts and a glimpse of our corner of this awesome sandbox.

TLDR; EvE caters perfectly to a variety of play styles, including the risk averse. It's what you make it that counts, not getting forced to stick your toes into piranha infested waters against your will.

Whenever I want solo gameplay in EvE, I log onto the Singularity server.

Yep, I have a pretty similar view point. I do think there should be some extra rewards for heading out into dangerous space, but I'm more than happy for people to chill in High Sec. I dislike the PvP camper attitude that seems to be 'make them come to my trap, they shouldn't be allowed to stay away from my trap', but I'm not too concerned that CCP will ever do that.

All the best for moving out into WH, it can be pretty exciting at times. It's definitely a lot of work, and quite different to the safe 'do whatever I feel like doing today' feel of high sec, but if it's something you want to do go for it! I did a small stint for a while in WH and burnt myself out from the commitment to the game, but that was as much my own fault as anything. Starting a WH from scratch (we only had 1 person with any WH experience) led to many many late nights and quite a few lost ships, but pretty glad I did it looking back. Good luck!

i've never thought of EVE as a MMO, i see it as a sandbox game that has the option of MMO or Solo play.

I think a lot of ppl dislike the gamers who complain with no really point to the moan. CCP offer a game and you get the choice to play or not to play. Moaning doesnt really help and thats what ppl seem to react too.

so what i have just done (sort of) is moan about the moaners. Hmmmm

My bad, I was just generally annoyed about the entire "Oh my gawd, CCP is killing solo, they will notice when I unsub me 14 accounts"

And your question was much better than that.

Thanks for clarifying what you meant, much appreciated. I definitely agree forums can be a tad alarmist at times (understatement?).

The bolded part is the important part. There is nothing wrong with being a "solo players" SO LONG AS you understand it's a multilayer game and you are CHOOSING a less than optimal path.

YOU aren't the problem. It's these people who love to play solo AND think the game should be changed to fit them so they can "be left alone".

I play "solo" a lot when I feel like it or when my corp mates aren't one etc. Nothing wrong with it at all. I, like you don't feel like "pvp" all the time, but I still know i'm in a pvp game and people will come at me and I love figuring out new ways to survive, even if i don't get very many kills (on this toon which mainly does high sec stuff, on my pvp "main" that I trot out for wars, i get a good few).

No it isn't. The game design is fine, it's not CCP's fault some people don't have more free time.

I sometimes have limited free time. I compensate for that by having multiple account in different parts of EVE. When I don't have time for group pvp stuff in null sec or waiting around for a high sec incursion fleet, I can log on the low sec mission alt or the null sec anom farmer and have a few minutes of space ship fun then off I go. Not saying everyone should do it exactly my way, but there ARE already ways to play EVE with limited time.

The problem is "solo players" resistance to things that are good for this MULTIPLAYER game just because they are solo or have limited time. It's BS when people think their problems are somehow everyone else's problem.

**** the haters. No one has to subscribe to anyone else's idea of a sandbox. When it comes to Eve, as in life, do whatever makes you happy.

Happy flying.