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I suggested ore rebalance earlier myself but I don’t exactly agree with way it is being done here. Gnessis and Spod changes are good, but what is the point of buffing ABC, especially Arkonour? Ark is 2nd best ore to mine anywhere as it is, it needs no boost. And why is noting being done about omber? Is omber to remain **** ore as before, and why?

So happy that changes are being made and thigs are being done.

It is very unfair that some players made huge profits by knowing about the changes before you announced them. The CSM and especially CCP Devs did surely talk about this to friends in some cases. It is impossible for you to find out who talked. However, what you can do is punish those players who took advantage of the insider information. Like in real life you can discover insider trading by simply identifying the players who made unusual successful investments. What you should do is simple remove a part of their investments respective to the amount the specific item increased in price directly after you announced the changes.

In the future you should announce resource related changes even before you decide to implement them. You should clearly announce what you are thinking about changing as soon as you start thinking about it and you should announce what you intend to implement as soon as you decide to implement it.

Fozzie, have you noticed that you get asked to write about major changes more often than not.

Though your disclaimers are better than average so I can see why.

Someone should give that man a raise.

((More PG for one of the Amarr BS please))

I'm cool with these changes (I think,) but I'd like to ask for "something" to be done about d-scan. If all the miners (who aren't bots) go to null-sec, they're all going to end up with RSI from hitting the d-scan buttan every second. Maybe a module scanning every cycle automatically with a fixed scan range, or a drone or something along those lines - something. Cheers.

Not an expert on moon mining on reactions so no comment there....but.... everything else? FANTASTICLUCIOUS!!!! Thanks for the good job and being brave enough to do it.

Grav site becoming anomalies makes WH mining mostly non-viable. Perhaps Skiff only fleets might work under heavy protection.

No longer can mining fleets detect your presence by probes and have time to warp to POS. Any unopened WH an attacker finds is almost an automatic mining ship kill even without cov ops cloak.

There is NO fleet protection from surprise attack alpha volleys. That is the whole principle of most RL snipers. Most those mining ships are going to pop in the first few seconds of any organized attack -- with the possible exception of skiffs. Most the time so-called defense fleets will be left with merely revenge.

Yes you can quickly start defending from later attacks. But the first attacks are free even if you see them on directional 3-4 second from arrival. No mining ship larger than Venture is going to warp out in time if they were actually mining. If they are orbiting its likely even slower. And only Skiff orbits fast enough to generate much angular velocity.

The opening of new WH's provides an perfect WH system breaching opportunity -- totally stealth ambush on any mining fleet that they should not be able see coming in time no matter how god they are. Just stack your fleet up at 10K+ distance from WH like SWAT and military does when they blow new "door" in back wall for breaching ops. Rush that wh to open it. Then scan once for grav site anomalies on the other. Next thing you are landing in ambush range of their mining fleet in 20 seconds.

Simple Covet Ops ship attacks through existing WH also benefit. This change frees high slot normally used for probes and cuts time to attack dramatically. If they aren't warping as soon as they hear you enter, those mining ships are toast. Every WH is like you had BMed the grav sites earlier.

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Some insist that NO ONE would go for a mining ship kill first if there are combat ship around. BS I have seen different many times.

Why? Often it just comes down to mining ships are faster ISK killed/second - plus combat ship tend to stick around longer than is wise. But sometimes mining ships are all a small hit and run attack fleet is strong enough to put on his killboard and get away alive. They destroy miners and run before you r huge protect fleet turns them to space dust. Sometimes its killboard greed. They are pretty sure they can take your protection fleet easily if it sticks around but take the first 20 seconds to add your mining ships to that expected total before miners can warp away. All based on the idea miners run immediately if slowly; but combat ships normally can't start leaving until last miner warps out.
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Solutions other than go all skiff?

Well CCP could provide lesser sovereignty structures in WH to automatically detect new wh openings & send out audio/chat alarm. Not pinpointing new Wh location necessarily.

New anchorable mobile structures could provide mining sites limited protection like

(1) warning shield: huge (100km radius) but very weak (1000hp?) POS-like force shield to stop ambush approach at viable warning distance. Only useful versus single intruders. And since its anchored the attacker still gets a structure kill in many cases.

(2) Advanced Mobile Warp Disruptor -- keyed like POS shields so that friendlies can warp in and out freely but others are stopped at 25km (small), 40km (medium), 100km (large) or 250km (huge).

Any way you flip the pancake it is still a pancake.

Yes I agree there should be a boost to Outpost but I feel it should be along side of the POS system that allot more people use. Including the Outpost uses... Just saying.

Secondly 550-1M whats the difference... More indy alts that's what to use of those slots. Needs more dynamics in this solution til I personally approve it.

Fozzie have you considered how many of your customers do ice mining at the moment and enjoy the current system and style of play. Perhaps you have some stats or have taken a randomised opinion poll?

Have you also considered what proportion of those will quit and what proportion will make a move and mine in null or low sec?

This is a missed opportunity: scanning moons could have been made into a game of its own... rather than: "Launch probes... wait... see if you won." *snore*... There should be a graphical interface, showing all the systems moons and the distribution layout (that you've scanned out so far). There should be active player input for detecting minerals; sloppy players should have a chance of missing resource caches that skilled players might catch. There should be an wide opportunity for PVP during the scanning: i.e. ships cant be cloaked while scans are underway... or perhaps a giant flag that says "someone is here" (as with planetary districts for example). There is even the possibility for scaning-result interference as players try to sabotage each other. Dust players could even be involved in the process. Serious, serious opportunity missed.... Is there still time to change things?