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CCP explained by creating a voting system that probably suppressed HI SEC votes even further!
CSM9 is the time for cumpulsory sufferage in the CSM elections!


EDIT:Posting in a nerf HI SEC thread

Only 80%?? if ALL the ice is mined?!!!

Ouch! Good thing i don't care about capitals or pos's otherwise i would be ever so slightly miffed.

I fully approve of all of these changes. Brilliant work making moons be what they were initially supposed to be. And I hope your valiant effort brings more indy to 0.0. I however do with we had more production slots in each station than this buff will give us. Is 1000 slots too much to dream of?

2 points I am curious about:
Will these changes actually make indy in 0.0 worth it? Or are we continuing/going to go back to the import/export markets of the drone poo days?

Secondly: I am very disappointed that there was no mention of any changes to salvaging. I would love to see some sort of T2 salvage alchemy. With capital rigs it would be nice to see at least a slight uptick in T2 salvage/price limit through alchemy. Also, how will these exploration sites effect the prices of salvage? In the demo it looked like there was an incredible amount of items shooting out of that wreck. Will these site spawn more frequently compared to now?

They basically added minerals from high sec. I don't see the issue. One of the issues with null industry is the availability of low end minerals. That's why people compress with 425 railguns or whatnot and then ship them to null to refine them for the trit they need. That's not a good system. Now when you mine out the spod, you get those low end minerals that you need.

Also, the reason spod is so low in value is it's huge m3 vs others.

the Rorqual is able to compress 500ice blocks per hour. Thats not really much, with the new harvesters.Please adapt the Rorqual too

Hey there,

please don't forget to adjust the compression rate of the Rorqual / the blueprints for ice compression accordingly, to bring them up to par with the reduced cycle time of the harvesters.

I really hope CCP can review the Ice changes. I think making ice and anomally you dont basically need to scan is a bad idea. Letting them spawn precisely every 4 hours in only selected systems is even worse idea.
Please, male Ice sites just another cosmis signature which people can find anywhere and that people need actually to scan.

The income from mining Arkonor could have been easily boosted by simply rebalancing spodumain to be in line with ABC in terms of high end minerals, thus increasing the total ISK/hr of mining out the asteroids in these nullsec grav sites.

These changes will not encourage more miners to head out to null sec. These changes are effectively ensuring that the miners already mining in nullsec will provide more resources, reducing the requirement for sourcing those resources from anywhere else such as shuttling them down from hisec, or employing more miners in null.

To encourage more miners in nullsec, CCP should remove mineral compression. This will put pressure on nullsec industrialist to source their materials locally. In addition, make life easier for miners by reworking refineries. With the coming Surface Infrastructure boosts, industry in low/null will be significantly boosted, allowing nullsec to get closer to the holy grail of being able to supply all their ammo requirements "locally" (and more to the point, being required to do so).

There needs to be pain involved in sourcing materials for war. Making it easier for nullsec by simply adding super-veldspar into the mix is very much a step in the wrong direction. This reduces any incentives to interact with people outside the alliance. I believe that small, surgical changes are all that is required to significantly change the rules of the game, not these sledge-hammer approaches of adding more tritanium to ABC than exist in Veldspar. This is a mess. An unmitigated disaster.

I'll just sit back and try to calm down for a while, before presenting my main question to the round table tomorrow which will be: what proportion of nocxium in EVE was refined from Pyroxeres over the last few months? If CCP cannot answer that question, I will take it as evidence that they didn't pay much attention to the entirety of the material economy, and spent entirely too much time listening to the whinging of null sec "industrialists" whose only purpose in life is to contribute to the proliferation of supercapital ships in Supercapitals Online.

PS: yes, I mad.

Not only was high sec ice-mining nerfed in many ways for the casual player, but high sec mining was just hit hard, and by extension, mission loot as the refined value of that loot just took a hammering.

But is all good, since null sec now has more moons to fight over.

Bottom line, this was another large net transfer of wealth from high sec to null sec.
And who knows what more things are planned for tomorrow.

And more food for thought. Can you imagine what high sec will look like when the new null sec cartel CSM is done with it over the winter 2013 and summer 2014 iterations?

It will be an utter wasteland.

People mined in hi-sec when trit was 0.8 ISk per unit.