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[MERC] The Marmite Collective

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Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#601 - 2013-04-14 02:56:18 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Jerome Hauleralt wrote:
In other words, you considered for a moment what would happen to the ISK flow and bloated killboard stats if your top station camper were out of the alliance. It's worth trading your reputation, your alliance's reputation, and pretty much any shred of credibility or dignity to keep him around. Because that's exactly how it shapes up. There's simply no other excuse.


You think like an ant without the brain and needed info to understand a decision . It's ok..... come here and I'll give you a hug. You will feel better Blink


He hit it dead-on, and now you're just coming off as a patronizing ****.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#602 - 2013-04-14 13:03:00 UTC
Go to bed.... Blink

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#603 - 2013-04-14 18:17:45 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Go to bed.... Blink


Went to bed.

Got up.

Came back to thread.

You're still a ******.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.
rswfire
#604 - 2013-04-15 07:10:12 UTC
Like the sig says, you either love them, or they hate you.

Personally, we love them. (And Tora is a pretty cool dude, imho!)

I think a certain someone is reactive when emotionally triggered. I am too, so I recognize it. Say, for example, someone made some rude remark to me; well, I'd likely react to that. If someone did something to someone I care about, I'd definitely react to that. Hell, I'd probably hire a merc over the latter...just to be as vindictive and as spiteful as possible! That's what emotionally reactive people do. (Granted, it's something you learn to temper as you get older.)

So yeah, it can be a liability...but it is also an asset.

Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. And for what it is worth, I think most of this is private, and it should remain that way. It wasn't very cool of a CSM candidate to post those logs the way that he did. Me and my ten accounts (or is it fifteen? I lose count) have chosen not to vote for him as a result. Well, that and the fact he awoxed a guy in order to coerce a vote from him. And some other things, but I digress...

I respect the way Tora handled this in the forums, because his response resonated with me. It really does come down to trusting your leaders, even when you're not provided a lengthy explanation. If you know them and have spent enough time with them, you can have a different opinion and still respect theirs over yours. God knows it is a tiring job to manage the needs of so many different people. Running an alliance in Eve, no matter its purpose or size, is a daunting task!

My opinion is irrelevant. Tora has this covered. I just wanted to voice my support...and to advocate the use of clonazepam, because that **** is just that damned good. Yeah!

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gnshadowninja
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#605 - 2013-04-16 09:51:00 UTC
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17263407

In before goons say didnt want that JF anyway.

Karma has a way of biting you in the ass.
Watson Crick
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#606 - 2013-04-16 10:41:02 UTC
Our war with the Goons started after they stole our share of the loot from a 27 bil Providence.

Between a Rock and a Hard Place

Since 30 March, Goonswarm has lost 274 ships worth more than 75 billion ISK.

We've lost 4.

I though I'd just leave this here.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#607 - 2013-04-16 11:24:39 UTC
Yeh High sec is boring and they don' t care about a few losses... Blink

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Kristopher Rocancourt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#608 - 2013-04-16 12:01:34 UTC
Watson Crick wrote:
Our war with the Goons started after they stole our share of the loot from a 27 bil Providence.

Between a Rock and a Hard Place

Since 30 March, Goonswarm has lost 274 ships worth more than 75 billion ISK.

We've lost 4.

I though I'd just leave this here.



It is almost like Goonswarm are sacrificing virgins to the Highsec Gods [us].


http://killalliance.co.uk/tears/tears-holeysheet/

Nolak Ataru
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#609 - 2013-04-16 16:15:09 UTC
Still waiting for you to wardec us....
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#610 - 2013-04-16 18:06:52 UTC
Nolak Ataru wrote:
Still waiting for you to wardec us....


And who are you big boy Twisted

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#611 - 2013-04-16 18:35:57 UTC
Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:
Watson Crick wrote:
Our war with the Goons started after they stole our share of the loot from a 27 bil Providence.

Between a Rock and a Hard Place

Since 30 March, Goonswarm has lost 274 ships worth more than 75 billion ISK.

We've lost 4.

I though I'd just leave this here.



It is almost like Goonswarm are sacrificing virgins to the Highsec Gods [us].




Sacrificing virgins to virgins seems redundant.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#612 - 2013-04-16 20:01:39 UTC
Watson Crick wrote:
Our war with the Goons started after they stole our share of the loot from a 27 bil Providence.

Between a Rock and a Hard Place

Since 30 March, Goonswarm has lost 274 ships worth more than 75 billion ISK.

We've lost 4.

I though I'd just leave this here.



http://p0wnd.nl/kb/index.php/corp_detail/12/

according to your killboard your numbers are slightly off, bro
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#613 - 2013-04-16 20:02:37 UTC
Someone make sure Emizeko gets this. He deserves it for all of those allied JF kills. http://i.imgur.com/33mi5G1.jpg
(I sent the double ETNY freighter kill to the ALOD dude you're welcome)




gnshadowninja wrote:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17263407

In before goons say didnt want that JF anyway.

Karma has a way of biting you in the ass.


grats you finally killed a goon
rswfire
#614 - 2013-04-16 20:20:06 UTC  |  Edited by: rswfire
Sir Marksalot wrote:
Watson Crick wrote:
Our war with the Goons started after they stole our share of the loot from a 27 bil Providence.

Between a Rock and a Hard Place

Since 30 March, Goonswarm has lost 274 ships worth more than 75 billion ISK.

We've lost 4.

I though I'd just leave this here.



http://p0wnd.nl/kb/index.php/corp_detail/12/

according to your killboard your numbers are slightly off, bro


You linked to a corporation page; not your alliance. Wouldn't this page be a little more truthful?

https://zkillboard.com/alliance/824518128/

I don't know how he calculated 75b, but they have done 1.7 trillion in damage:

https://zkillboard.com/alliance/1680888152/

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Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#615 - 2013-04-16 21:19:55 UTC
rswfire wrote:
Sir Marksalot wrote:
Watson Crick wrote:
Our war with the Goons started after they stole our share of the loot from a 27 bil Providence.

Between a Rock and a Hard Place

Since 30 March, Goonswarm has lost 274 ships worth more than 75 billion ISK.

We've lost 4.

I though I'd just leave this here.



http://p0wnd.nl/kb/index.php/corp_detail/12/

according to your killboard your numbers are slightly off, bro


You linked to a corporation page; not your alliance. Wouldn't this page be a little more truthful?

https://zkillboard.com/alliance/824518128/

I don't know how he calculated 75b, but they have done 1.7 trillion in damage:

https://zkillboard.com/alliance/1680888152/


Pretty sure he was referring to the war, not to your alliances on the whole.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#616 - 2013-04-16 21:31:18 UTC
^ The war is alliance vs alliance

rswfire wrote:
Sir Marksalot wrote:
Watson Crick wrote:
Our war with the Goons started after they stole our share of the loot from a 27 bil Providence.

Between a Rock and a Hard Place

Since 30 March, Goonswarm has lost 274 ships worth more than 75 billion ISK.

We've lost 4.

I though I'd just leave this here.



http://p0wnd.nl/kb/index.php/corp_detail/12/

according to your killboard your numbers are slightly off, bro


You linked to a corporation page; not your alliance. Wouldn't this page be a little more truthful?

https://zkillboard.com/alliance/824518128/

I don't know how he calculated 75b, but they have done 1.7 trillion in damage:

https://zkillboard.com/alliance/1680888152/



I confused his screenname with someone else because I am a ******. Carry on.
rswfire
#617 - 2013-04-16 21:31:36 UTC  |  Edited by: rswfire
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:

Pretty sure he was referring to the war, not to your alliances on the whole.


It's not my alliance. I just think the link he made is misleading; it wasn't for his alliance. It was for a single corporation within it. And even though the link I shared is an overall number, if I look at the recent kills for the previous days, their alliance shows up quite often. My only point is that the link and comments he made were misleading, though I think it's fair to say mine was slightly misleading as well, though not intentionally. As I said, I don't know how he came up with his figure. I don't know how to look up a single war online, but even Eve-Kill shows that Marmite has done 400B in damage in April alone, and this war started in March.

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Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#618 - 2013-04-16 21:45:19 UTC
rswfire wrote:
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:

Pretty sure he was referring to the war, not to your alliances on the whole.


It's not my alliance. I just think the link he made is misleading; it wasn't for his alliance. It was for a single corporation within it. And even though the link I shared is an overall number, if I look at the recent kills for the previous days, their alliance shows up quite often. My only point is that the link and comments he made were misleading, though I think it's fair to say mine was slightly misleading as well, though not intentionally. As I said, I don't know how he came up with his figure. I don't know how to look up a single war online, but even Eve-Kill shows that Marmite has done 400B in damage in April alone, and this war started in March.


Yeah, I didn't bother to go back and change the language when I said "your alliances." I knew our overall comments were aimed at a Goonswarm member and a Marmite member.

http://p0wnd.nl/kb/index.php/cc_detail/73/

That is their campaign on their own board. It's not really accurate in this case because that has been on going since last summer and the current campaign is more recent, but here at least you can get a rough idea of the campaign between the two currently.

Campaign wise, saying that they have only lost 4 ships to Goonswarm since the start of April is accurate, assuming everything is posted to this board. Kills and ISK numbers I'm too lazy to do the math on, since I'm only posting here because people can't type clearly and pointing this out is fun.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#619 - 2013-04-16 23:30:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
The Campaign on the killboard is all Goonwars we had so far since we started, so you cant use that for this war. If you look at the war stats in eve, you will see we did 75B damage so far vs 1-2B losses I think (just logged off Blink).

I must admit, the 27-28B goon freighter and the double freighter kills helped a lot ...... Marks only flies pods Blink

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Nolak Ataru
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#620 - 2013-04-17 00:13:44 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
Still waiting for you to wardec us....


And who are you big boy Twisted


I'm the one trolling your alliance in Jita to the point where one of your pilots convo'd me and said you'd wardec me.