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Dev Blog: The Battle for Caldari Prime

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EvilweaselFinance
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2013-03-20 23:20:04 UTC  |  Edited by: EvilweaselFinance
CCP Falcon wrote:
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Question - Will you be disabling the FW and sec status NPCs in Luminaire for this event?


CONCORD and the navies will still be on the prowl for those who choose to breach the Yulai Convention.

At the same time, trust me, you'll be able to shoot at eachother.



this is going to be some thing where we have to join premade corps isn't it

if it is you should probably advertise that because otherwise anyone with corp roles won't know to drop them and will be locked out
Burseg Sardaukar
Free State Project
#22 - 2013-03-20 23:30:05 UTC
Will PAX East guys be able to participate in this in a unique way?

Can't wait to dual box my Dust toon and EVE toon on the same machine!
CCP Falcon
#23 - 2013-03-20 23:54:54 UTC
EvilweaselFinance wrote:
this is going to be some thing where we have to join premade corps isn't it


No, it's not.

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3
Vikarion
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-03-21 00:00:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Vikarion
Turelus wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Question - Will you be disabling the FW and sec status NPCs in Luminaire for this event?


CONCORD and the navies will still be on the prowl for those who choose to breach the Yulai Convention.

At the same time, trust me, you'll be able to shoot at eachother.



So yes or no will Federation Navy NPC's designed for low standings and FW be turned off?
If not the entire Caldari Militia and those who most want to actually aid the Titan instead of "woman-who-sell-her-body" onto a potential Killmail wont be able to help.

This was one of the things I posted in the thread when the idea of this battle was first started, with current game mechanics the most loyal to the State can't go in and aid them because it's a 1.0 system spawning NPC Battleships which neut you out in short time and have crazy DPS. There are also the issues with Aggression Mechanics now meaning aiding anyone in Empire makes your entire logistics fleet Suspects.
It's somewhat frustrating to be on the side which is pretty much destined to lose this battle because on top being in the minority (The ones who don't want to help kill a Titan) we're faced with game mechanics fully designed to keep us out of the event system.



That's sort of intentionally designed. CCP also ran an event (Heth killing Dusties) to alienate the Dusties from defending the Caldari. There's no possible means for the Caldari to win this as currently set up, it's on tracks. Heck, they already have a test map with the Leviathan crashed on CP. Enjoy.
Funless Saisima
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-03-21 00:11:32 UTC
The titan crashes.
CCP Falcon
#26 - 2013-03-21 00:14:56 UTC

To clear up the most common question:

It's not physically possible to just "turn off" factional warfare NPCs, or the status of a system as a Factional Warfare system. Whether or not players decide they want to depart from the militia for a few days or not is entirely their own choice.

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3
CCP Falcon
#27 - 2013-03-21 00:16:15 UTC
Vikarion wrote:
That's sort of intentionally designed. CCP also ran an event (Heth killing Dusties) to alienate the Dusties from defending the Caldari.


If you actually bother following the news, you'll see that all 4 empires are in the process, or have been through a purging of mercenary enclaves.

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

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Jelani Akinyemi Affonso
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2013-03-21 00:17:08 UTC
YAY!!!!

Caldari titan is going DOWN!!!

Big smileSmileLolTwistedTwistedBear

BURN New Eden!!!
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#29 - 2013-03-21 00:24:00 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
lol soundz like my Caldari Faction status may be going down the crapper after I find myself bringing down the Luminaire Titan and its associated sec status hit Lol
Is that more then a 3% faction status hit for bringing down an NPC Titan?
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
YuuKnow
The Scope
#30 - 2013-03-21 00:32:53 UTC
So call me Eve-ignorant...

... but I thought that the Gallente drove the caldari off Caldari Prime after the Original Gallante-Caldari War.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Breakout_(Chronicle)

yk
Jelani Akinyemi Affonso
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2013-03-21 00:37:29 UTC
Vikarion wrote:
Turelus wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Question - Will you be disabling the FW and sec status NPCs in Luminaire for this event?


CONCORD and the navies will still be on the prowl for those who choose to breach the Yulai Convention.

At the same time, trust me, you'll be able to shoot at eachother.



So yes or no will Federation Navy NPC's designed for low standings and FW be turned off?
If not the entire Caldari Militia and those who most want to actually aid the Titan instead of "woman-who-sell-her-body" onto a potential Killmail wont be able to help.

This was one of the things I posted in the thread when the idea of this battle was first started, with current game mechanics the most loyal to the State can't go in and aid them because it's a 1.0 system spawning NPC Battleships which neut you out in short time and have crazy DPS. There are also the issues with Aggression Mechanics now meaning aiding anyone in Empire makes your entire logistics fleet Suspects.
It's somewhat frustrating to be on the side which is pretty much destined to lose this battle because on top being in the minority (The ones who don't want to help kill a Titan) we're faced with game mechanics fully designed to keep us out of the event system.



That's sort of intentionally designed. CCP also ran an event (Heth killing Dusties) to alienate the Dusties from defending the Caldari. There's no possible means for the Caldari to win this as currently set up, it's on tracks. Heck, they already have a test map with the Leviathan crashed on CP. Enjoy.



hmmm... i see some ppl already have their excuses already made come Saturday morning..

and you are CALDARI...

........

Deal with it!

Cool
Bl4ck Ph03n1x
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-03-21 01:06:08 UTC
Should we prepare to join FW to participate to the event?

Don't feed the trolls.
MrBawkbagawk
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2013-03-21 01:13:54 UTC
should we assume then that 5 years is how long it takes for CCP to get off its hands and remember plot points? does this mean we will be seeing some advances in worm hole lore next year?
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#34 - 2013-03-21 01:19:36 UTC
So basically - a large percentage of, if not most of, the active pvpers for Caldari and Gallente have a security status that does not allow them to participate in this event in Luminaire.

Additionally, it's possibly being decided by a Console FPS. (That is still in beta I might add)

Great :(
roy oakes
boom boom long time
#35 - 2013-03-21 01:24:04 UTC
im guessing this is just for fw toons? id really love to get in on some this dust bombing

https://wiki.eveonline.com/?_ga=1.263942732.1175653019.1457937776
mkint
#36 - 2013-03-21 01:29:17 UTC
hooray, eve players being sidelined in their own game so some console tards can blow up a titan, removing one of the most interesting landscape features in the game. squeee

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#37 - 2013-03-21 01:29:42 UTC
Will the system's node be reinforced or do I have to fill out the large fleet battle form? Lol
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Vikarion
Doomheim
#38 - 2013-03-21 01:29:44 UTC
chatgris wrote:
So basically - a large percentage of, if not most of, the active pvpers for Caldari and Gallente have a security status that does not allow them to participate in this event in Luminaire.

Additionally, it's possibly being decided by a Console FPS. (That is still in beta I might add)

Great :(


Hey, at least you aren't also barred from the system by FW status. Most Caldari FW'ers are also in FW corps, and there's no way they can leave in time by Friday afternoon (resign roles: 24 hours) unless they do it right now, not to mention the fact that their Gallente standings are tanked to the point that they'll be insta-popped anyway. Gallente players, OTOH, will have no problem as long as they aren't pirates. They won't even have to worry about much opposition.

And yeah, Dusties are the new first-class citizens. We capsuleers are accessories to the clone soldiers. You know, sorta like the Jedi in Star Wars were to those clone soldiers.
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#39 - 2013-03-21 01:35:04 UTC  |  Edited by: chatgris
Vikarion wrote:
chatgris wrote:
So basically - a large percentage of, if not most of, the active pvpers for Caldari and Gallente have a security status that does not allow them to participate in this event in Luminaire.

Additionally, it's possibly being decided by a Console FPS. (That is still in beta I might add)

Great :(


Hey, at least you aren't also barred from the system by FW status. Most Caldari FW'ers are also in FW corps, and there's no way they can leave in time by Friday afternoon (resign roles: 24 hours) unless they do it right now, not to mention the fact that their Gallente standings are tanked to the point that they'll be insta-popped anyway. Gallente players, OTOH, will have no problem as long as they aren't pirates. They won't even have to worry about much opposition.


Well - the faction navy isn't as bad as the faction police. Still, it's pretty ****** for everyone involved.

Not to mention, even if they turned off all the npc's for both faction and security status - this completely excludes the US TZ, which is a benefit for the Caldari given the current timezone dominance.

It seems ****** that something this symbolic is decided completely separate from the fw mechanics and playerbase.

Vikarion wrote:

And yeah, Dusties are the new first-class citizens. We capsuleers are accessories to the clone soldiers. You know, sorta like the Jedi in Star Wars were to those clone soldiers.


Well, at least whatever the outcome it probably won't affect anything in game, just really sucks for the RPers who fly spaceships :(
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#40 - 2013-03-21 01:38:50 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Darien Antilles wrote:
Quote:
If you want to participate in shaping EVE's history, you should monitor the news closely over the next few days and set aside your Friday afternoon (UTC).


...unless you actually have a job that precludes it.


Sadly there is no one time that works for everyone. Sorry. =/


A weekend is much more inclusive.