EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hello,

im fairly new to the game and I was asking me how do you move your ships, ammo, etc. to specific locations. I was planning to stay for a few weeks in a quiet low/0.0 space to test out exploration and ratting. I heard about cynosural fields, and until a few minutes ago I thought I could transport any ship to a cyno field. But apparently only capitals and some exceptions can jump with a cyno. So, how should I get my stuff to locations which are 30+ jumps deep into null?

I tried the black frog calculater, but 150m for 320m³? Hum...

Black Frog need to jump a ~6bn jump freighter into *by definition* dangerous space, and it uses a full load of fuel whether its moving 150 m3 or 80 000 m3.

If you can use a cloak, I'd be equipping a frigate with a cloak and a MWD and scouting out the route, and then thinking about running a cloak-equipped cargo frigate through.

Note that most entry systems to 0.0 are regularly camped, with warp disruption bubbles that warp core stabilisers dont help with.

While actually doing things in 0.0 is basically My Little Jump Clone: Friendship is Magic, getting there in the first place without an alliance membership might be kinda rough on a new player. The REASON it's ultra-safe easy-mode is that it's really simple for entrenched territorial interests to nuke interlopers into oblivion.

Black Frog is really only for extremely large volumes, it's not really going to cover what you want to do.

Is this a rhetoical question, like you are just curious about null logistics or are you dead set on going 30 jumps out? If it's the former, Null logistics are done mostly via jump freighters, which can just cyno fields and have massive cargoholds. Those are not cheap however and a lone pilot is not likely to have one.

Now if you want to know for your own use, I'm really hesitant to say this because the fact that you want to get out of high-sec is good. Very good. That said...

If you don't know how you are going to get your stuff 30 jumps out into null, then my advice is -don't- move your stuff 30 jumps out into null. Going into 0.0 with no support or backup is not a fun time. Most everyone in 0.0 is part of a corporation that provides support for getting their stuff out and back, defending space, and providing intel.

I think going deep into 0.0 is a bit more than you want to chew off right now. I'm not even sure how many NPC stations are that far out. My advice is move your stuff for a system near the border of a chain of dead end low sec systems and do some low sec exploration there first. Wormhole exploration is also an option, the C1 and C2s aren't much harder than the stuff you'll find in null and the advantage is you still base out of high-sec so if you decide it's not for you, you aren't trapped 30 jumps deep.

If you really must, though... you have 3 options really.


1. Don't live in null, just raid it. If you are exploring, an all in one explorer fit like this might be something to work toward. If you are ratting, a Stealth Bomber is a fairly easy ship to get into and can rat fairly effectively while also have the advantage of being fairly cheap and hard to catch. If you are going to be coming in and out of low-sec a lot you want something fast and sneaky. Of course I'm bias because bombers are my favorite ship, but still.

You can also use wormholes to find back doors in and out of null. This tends to be safer than traveling manually but it takes longer unless you are lucky.

2. Don't go 30 jumps out, live in NPC null instead. The local alliance in Providence is NRDS which means they won't kill you on sight. Unfortunately, everyone else will and its a hot spot for pvp. Fly cheap stuff you can afford to lose and be prepared to die a lot. The plus side is you'll learn a lot about life in null. Once you know how not to die then you can start planning explorations into deeper space. It won't be easy but if you survive you'll be hardened enough to take anything EvE can throw at you.

3. Join a corp with 0.0 access. Deep space in a large alliances backyard is fairly safe as far as null goes. Not only do you get help moving your stuff out, but as a newbie you have support of veterans to show you the ropes. Just be sure, and I can't stress this enough, that you do your research into what corp you want to join. If you are going to trust over your assets to stranger you better look into the history of the corp to make sure it's legit. For example, if a Goonswarm recruiter offers to let you join for a fee, you might want to pass on that one.

Where dobyou plan to live in nullsec.

Just a couple of quick points.

Make sure you check and double check where it is you're going. If you're target area is alliance owned sov space then you will not be able to dock or anything and probably get killed rather quickly.

NPC nullsec has usually a lot of dockable stations and the markets there are usually quite well seeded, although at a higher price. NPC nullsec can be quite a busy place during peak times so stay on your toes. Everyone there will be doing their best to scan you down and kill you. As well as the locals who are often rather seasoned players you will have to be alert for roaming gangs. With the big blue donut around sov space, NPC null is often the place the coalitions take their minions to feed.

I would second the above advice. Take nothing and start afresh. You dont want to lose all your belonging in one swoop.

I would also recommend starting in low sec to ease you into it but that advice still stands.

It's doable if you moving ships around.

What do I do, when I want a station container and they are sold a few stations away? How do I transport a 20k m3 'parcel'?
Is there a ship capable of moving such a cargo in one piece?

Only 320m3?

Stick it in a frigate and fly it out there yourself.

Wait...stain quiet?

Resupply, get to know the locals...or ask Black Frog for movement.

Living in null comes with prices (risk vs reward wall of text left out).
One of the risks: You have to deal a market that is usually not as good as in Empire.

So I am in a rather quiet low sec (0.1-0.3) area the last 2 days, and within those last two days I found 3 Radar sites. The rest of the stuff I scanned down were Gravimetric, Ladar, tons of Wormholes, and some DED stuff which would kill me, or the usual complexes you find with the onboard scanner which arent worth it apparently.

I wonder if this low rate of sites is normal, 3 Radars in a timespan of 2 days isnt that much eh? Should I look out for another region? How do I know which Systems suck at complexes and which not?