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For those of us who will have lots of upload bandwidth, can there be an option to keep sharing?

1) Ability to turn on/off sharing completely and independently for local vs remote.
2) Ability to have local clients work together. You really only need one local client to connect to the swarm and the other local clients can just leech from the local primary.
3) Might as well make it play with IPv6
4) Track/Cap down/up/total per unit of time with programmable units of time.

Some ideas.

The Mac issue reported in this thread cannot be caused by torrents because there is no launcher available that uses torrents at the moment. While there might be issues then they are unlikely to be the same problem as what was reported. Though we are of course aware that the Mac client does behave a bit special at times.

About the admin privileges: We actually are looking into ways of mitigating these by eventually moving the installation of the EVE client into a more appropriate place, fitting with the various operating system guidelines on where this data should live, mostly because that will also take away some pain on our end when it comes to maintaining the update mechanism. Requiring admin privileges is really a bad habit but was not really frowned upon in the Windows world until Microsoft introduced UAC; and as we all know it takes a while for some things to get adopted properly.

They're getting false positives against people who don't even have Internet connections. If they're going to falsely identify you, it'll happen no matter what.

Blizzard already uses Bit Torrent and so do many Opensource ISO distributions. All of those are fine. The biggest issue for false positives are people sharing files with similar names to movies/music.

want nothing to do with bit torrent or anything like that.

If I cant disable it completely and download from EVE servers, well this is where we are gonna part ways after all these years.

I've only had a few issues with the launcher, but still been able to run the Eve client manually for a time. Downloading the entire (gargantuan) client is a pain, and a poor solution to a simple problem. I don't see why a separate (smaller) launcher download isn't (or perhaps can't be?) available, especially for people who are savvy enough to unpack a zip file and over-write the requisite directory.

Indeed. Having the upload stop once the download finishes will mean they will reduce their bandwidth by what? Maybe 1 percent if bunches choose to keep upload on? (Not by default)

I have no problems with your #1/#2, but saying bit torrent has security concerns and that it hasn't been "vetted" by time is not understanding how the protocol works. The protocol is 12 years old, that is as "vetted by time" as you will ever get for technology.

The protocol itself is safe, it's how loosely the developer implements the security that dedicates if there will be issues, but that can be said about anything, especially HTTP.

The only valid "security" argument against not using P2P, is that someone can get your IP address, but it still does not mean they know who you are or which characters you play. You're just another IP address in the list. That is border-lining tinfoil hattery, but it can be a valid argument if you have a special situation.

One specific example would be if your from Australia or another country will strong data caps, and someone sees your IP address in the P2P list, so they decide to send you unsolicited data. Even if it isn't enough to DOS your connection, they could easily consume your entire monthly data cap in short order.

In this case, knowing someones IP address, irreverent of who they are, can allow an attack against a random EvE player where there is a high chance of a datacap.

Most web sites get "hacked" because of horrible coding practices. I've done a lot with network/server security and secure application designs, and there is no security through obscurity.

That being said, the average person probably doesn't know how to remain safe and typically opens holes in their firewalls for convinces every time an app asks for permission.

Like I said before, it's a grey area. Knowing an IP address is the first step to attacking someone, but at the same time, IP addresses are easy to get just from IP scanning the Internet, which can be done in less than a day. Come on IPv6.

BitTorrent may be good for the rest of the planet , however , the copyright Nazi's , aka Hollywood , have the ISP's in the USA monitoring the ports that application uses and some outright block them.

Also , as I am part of a College staff Desktop Support Department , BitTorrent ports are disabled and anything doing with that format is blocked. Most businesses do that as well.

Just an FYI as you think about moving forward with this.

http://torrentfreak.com/att-starts-six-strikes-anti-piracy-plan-next-month-will-block-websites-121012/

My only wish is that wont break playing on linux as much as when the launcher was created (which was a shitstorm for us)...